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Named a star, Need to find it!
Last post 06-20-2009 12:19 PM by tkerr. 12 replies.
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08-22-2008 03:08 PM
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jrmcadams
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Named a star, Need to find it!
I am new to this whole star gazing thing, and was wondering if there were any programs online that you can type coordinates into and find satellite photos of your star or even how to just find your star looking through a telescope! I have the coordinates if someone is able to help that would be GREAT!
01h 24m 11s 12* 45s 11m
I dont even know how to read these coordinates. I'm lame.
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tkerr

- Joined on 01-02-2004
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Re: Named a star, Need to find it!
There are free planetarium / star charting programs you can download that will help you find the star. You can find links to them in the "Resources Forum". Stellarium is a good one to try. So is Cartes Du Ciel.
With that said, here is something you probably don't want to hear. For that I am sorry, but here goes anyways.
All visible stars have already been named or given some kind of designator. The only organization that can do that is the (IAU), International Astronomical Union. Any other place is misleading you if you believe they are putting a name on a star for you.
Even if you can find it's location with the aid of any software, it is most likely so dim you won't be able to see it with the naked eye, or even binoculars. Many of those novelty certificates sold give coordinance to a star that is so distant and so dim it is even hard to see it with a moderately large telescope.
Have A Nice _________
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zachsdad

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Re: Named a star, Need to find it!
For a picture this link;
http://archive.stsci.edu/cgi-bin/dss_form
will take you to the digitized sky survey. In the boxes marked RA and DEC type the coordinates you've been given like this; 1,24,11 in the RA box and 12,45,11 in the DEC box. Below that choose GIF for the FILE FORMAT. Then hit the RETRIEVE IMAGE button, the star should be in the center of the photo. Many of the stars assigned by star naming companies are far too dim to be seen with the naked eye, and many are a challenge with a telescope.
Good luck.
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WannaB

- Joined on 04-30-2008
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Re: Named a star, Need to find it!
tkerr:
With that said, here is something you probably don't want to hear. For that I am sorry, but here goes anyways.
All visible stars have already been named or given some kind of designator. The only organization that can do that is the (IAU), International Astronomical Union. Any other place is misleading you if you believe they are putting a name on a star for you.
Even if you can find it's location with the aid of any software, it is most likely so dim you won't be able to see it with the naked eye, or even binoculars. Many of those novelty certificates sold give coordinance to a star that is so distant and so dim it is even hard to see it with a moderately large telescope.
Talk about peeing on the man's parade!!
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tkerr

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Re: Named a star, Need to find it!
WannaB:
Talk about peeing on the man's parade!!
Yeah, I know! If it weren't me I'm pretty sure someone else would have done it. I just happen to be the first to see this post.
Have A Nice __________
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WannaB

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Re: Named a star, Need to find it!
tkerr:Yeah, I know! If it weren't me I'm pretty sure someone else would have done it. I just happen to be the first to see this post.
It's probably that mentality that a moderator has to possess in order to do the job. It's hard I would imagine. You can't just flip a switch and turn that way of thinking on and off! 
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chipdatajeffB

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Re: Named a star, Need to find it!
What, they didn't send you a finder chart that shows where it is in the sky? Did they at least tell you what constellation it's in?
Some of these companies are much worse about ripping you off than others are.
I looked up your coordinates online and don't see anything remotely close to visible with typical amateur equipment at that point. However, if I put a - in front of the second set of numbers (we call that declination), then there is a relatively bright star a few arcseconds away.
A negative declination means the object is in the southern celestial hemisphere (below the celestial equator), and therefore more difficult to see from locations north of about 45 degrees north latitude (the object would be very low in the southern sky).
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jrmcadams
- Joined on 08-22-2008
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Re: Named a star, Need to find it!
They sent a chart and stuff, I just dont know how to read it. :). That'll all. I said from the beginning, I am new to this, so I don't know much at all.
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Centaur

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Re: Named a star, Need to find it!
Welcome to the discussion group, jrmcadams.
It’s usually not in August that we get this request, but around the times of major gift giving occasions we can count on hearing it a lot. That’s when the star naming scammers flood the radio airwaves with their come-ons. Usually questioners on this subject do not return; I hope you stay longer.
I realize that members here find it difficult to tell the truth to those who have already bought a star name, but it needs to be done in these public astronomical forums to prevent future abuse. As has been noted, the International Astronomical Union is the only organization recognized by the scientific community as being an official namer of celestial objects. Anyone else who claims to do this is simply placing a proposed star name in a private book that they have self-published. Having the book copyrighted and placed in the Library of Congress only protects the author from plagiarism; the US government is not verifying the truth or accuracy of anything it contains. The stars chosen are usually not visible to the naked eye, often too far south to be seen by northern hemisphere residents, and frequently duplicated by competing star naming companies. The price asked by these companies for their simple but dubious service is outrageous, especially when they eventually ask for a lot more money than advertised in order to sell extras like copies of the registration book.
Anyone wishing to rename a star after someone should simply pick a visible star and draw up a pretty certificate. This can be done easily with many computer programs. This shows more love, effort and creativity than saying you’ve given money to a shady enterprise to do this for you.
Here are links to sources discussing the star naming scams:
http://www.space.com/spacewatch/mystery_monday_030915.html
http://www.nmm.ac.uk/server/show/conWebDoc.309 http://www.ras.ucalgary.ca/~gibson/starnames/isr_news.html
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Hispahian
- Joined on 06-19-2009
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Re: Named a star, Need to find it!
Today i just bough a star and i got from the ISR company exactly the same coordinates than yours.
I try to find those with the help of google earth and those are not even in the Bootes constellation as I asked for, but somewhere between Aries and Piscis constallation.
I called then and now waiting for an response email.
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Centaur

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Re: Named a star, Need to find it!
Hispahian:
Today i just bough a star and i got from the ISR company exactly the same coordinates than yours.
I try to find those with the help of google earth and those are not even in the Bootes constellation as I asked for, but somewhere between Aries and Piscis constallation.
I called then and now waiting for an response email.
Welcome to the discussion group, Hispahian.
See my post immediately above yours. Try to get your money back.
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Hispahian
- Joined on 06-19-2009
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Re: Named a star, Need to find it!
Hello Centaur,
I did know about the fact that the companies do not really name a star, I did read all about it before buying the star, so i am aware of what they do sale is just fantasy, but still i think it is a nice idea and I like to have the book they publicate every 4 years with all the names of stars from people that like me, buys dreams, so for me it is not about asking my money back but to have those company that are making some money out people dreams at least to do it right and dont sale the same product ;) and of course the most important one is if i ask bootes constellation then give me that.....i am not an astronomer but for god sake i do have some knowlegde of the principal ones ;9
By the way. google earth has a sky mode, you can check the sky from there too ;)
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tkerr

- Joined on 01-02-2004
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Re: Named a star, Need to find it!
In addition to what those places don't tell you, is that you will need the Hubble Space Telescope to find and see the star. Those novelty stars are generally so distant, small, and dim they are out of sight for Earth Bound amateur astronomer telescopes and even larger observatories.
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