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The Aether
Last post 05-28-2008 06:46 AM by Primordial. 16 replies.
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05-07-2008 11:56 AM
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DavidMawer
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The Aether
. (Universal, Pure Intelligent Energy) My concept of the Universe is intuitive and not as a result of some mathematical theory or equation, I have for many years been aware that there was a universal energy source that manifested and sustained everything in an intelligent way producing one whole unified living entity. This also means that this Aether energy sustenance is the medium by which all things communicate their own unique properties to us and everything else. I therefore reasoned that all matter, living or otherwise was dependent on this intelligent sustenance for its very existence and realised that this sustenance was what was once called the Aether. From this deduction I reasoned that the Universe was a living entity and as such I realised that this concept would change my thinking about many things. It would mean that a lot of which I had been taught would have to be reassessed, such as the Newtonian notion of gravity and light. Ideas like a Multi-Universe; the ‘Big Bang’ and expanding Universe now seemed to be absurd and too ambiguous to contemplate and more like fiction than science. No one is able to test these theories scientifically. I reason now that what has hitherto been called gravity is, simply the side effects of this universal sustaining energy, we call the Aether, in its’ operation of maintaining the totality of the Universe. I now accept the Aether as the basic energy of All-that-is which is in all and through all, providing the ultimate universal nervous like communication system. The Aether exerts a sustaining pressure throughout the Universe similar in a way to that of the voltage in an electrical supply and each individual manifestation in the Universe is like the electrical appliances that runs off the 240v mains supply where each individual appliance determines its own load i.e. current (amperes) it puts on the mains in order to operate. This in principle, I maintain, is precisely the way all that exists is sustained and maintained in each and every unique state throughout the Universe. The Aether was an old concept or idea that there was this substance that carried radio and light waves i.e. electromagnetic transmissions but it was abandoned because Michelson and Morley could not prove it existed. Obviously there is no atmosphere in so-called outer-space so a medium of another kind is necessary to carry all the electromagnetic communication that is going on throughout the Universe. Without the Aether how would we manage to control and communicate with our satellites or anything else for that matter. The Sun, Moon and Stars would not be able to communicate their own unique presence in the Universe if there wasn’t this universal communications’ medium? NASA would not be able to control and manoeuvre their rockets and spacecraft without it and Comets would not produce a tail that we could see, in fact, we would not be able to see anything; the Aether is still relevant and should be reinstated forthwith.It was Maxwell Clark who proposed that the phenomenon we call light was an electromagnetic phenomenon carried by the Aether. He also was aware that visible light, by which we observe and communicate with things, forms only a small part of an entire spectrum of electromagnetic-radiation carried by the Aether. However, I maintain that this is done in a reactionary way and not in wave transmissions or as particles being fired from wherever at a velocity we call light (c). Maxwell used this later-abandoned concept of the Aether to explain that electromagnetic radiation was indeed active at an infinite distance, which was constantly being transmitted by the Aether. He also maintained that magnetic lines of force were disturbances in the Aether but did not say how these disturbances occurred or what it was that caused the interference. Albert A. Michelson and Edward W. Morley conducted experiments in (1881, 1887) to collect evidence that this Aether did or did not exist. What they did do according to scientific reports of the time was to pick up with their equipment and horn-like antennae, a background noise which was thought to be the aftermath radiation from the BB proving that the Big Bang did in fact occurred. However I maintain that this background noise was in fact electromagnetic activity that was being transmitted on the Aether. The Aether theory was subsequently dropped because I can only think that they misinterpreted what they picked up. More to the point I think that what they picked up proves that an Aether medium does in fact exist, how otherwise could they have picked up anything? Let us now consider another possible alternative to the theory of Gravity, for instance The Venturi Effect created by the Moon’s orbit around the Earth as can be illustrated by a simple piece of apparatus using a tubular setup known as a Venturi tube or simply a Venturi. This shows that fluid flowing through a length of pipe of varying diameter creates a depression at the narrowest point reducing the height of the liquid in the gauge. A Venturi can be used in many ways such as carburization as in a carburettor which mixes petrol with air. Let us now consider another possible alternative to the theory of Gravity, for instance The Venturi Effect created by the Moon’s orbit around the Earth as if in a sea of Aether. A simple apparatus, shown in diagram form is a tubular setup known as a Venturi tube or simply a Venturi. This diagram shows fluid flowing through a length of pipe of varying diameter, which creates a depression at the narrowest point reducing the height of the liquid in the gauge. A Venturi can be used in many ways such as carburization as in a carburettor which mixes petrol with air. Let’s say the dark area in the Universe is the Aether, an all pervading mind energy sustenance, of which everything is manifested throughout the Universe and is the medium that conveys all aspects of electromagnetic information, signals and radiation. For ease of comprehension and possibly calculation, view the Aether power in exactly the same way that you view electrical power. Now let’s say the Aether has a constant voltage like pressure and this voltage like pressure is constant throughout the universe. The Aether is connected to every Atom and electron that manifests the physical universe. This in principle is similar in a way to electricity being connected to a light bulb or any other appliance.
The wattage or the amount of current required for a light bulb to radiate light is determined by the resistance of the filament whereas in the case of the Atom the amount of Aether sustenance required is determined by the number of electrons that a particular element has according to the Periodic Table of Elements. For instance the Uranium Atom has 92 electrons that require constantly sustaining by the Aether in order to maintain the status-quo otherwise if the electrons were not constantly sustained the electrons would disappear and so would the Uranium element. This means that the flow of Aether current required to manifest the Uranium Atom is 92 times more than that of the Hydrogen Atom which only has one electron. Hence the tremendous eruption and havoc caused when the Uranium Atom is split, more to the point, disrupted from the Aether energy source, leaving tremendous amounts of Aether energy power in thin air so to speak and no where to go other than into atomic energy radiation that is captured in a reactor. This Universal Aether Energy, Power or Sustenance can I believe be measured in a similar way to that of electricity. The effects of the Aether together with the Venturi effect as with the Moon circling the Earth we get a combined effect which hitherto we have called Gravity. The Earth is not connected to the Moon by the pull of gravity in the way Newton demonstrated with a rock tied to a piece of string and swirled around his head. There is no centrifugal or centripetal forces involved in the motion of the Moon. The Moon travels around the Earth under its own inertia power and is sustained in orbit by the Aether and Venturi effect. All heavenly bodies, spheres and galaxies are inertia driven and as there is no resistance in the ocean of Aether I am confident that they will all remain in motion for time immemorial. That is not to say there will be no changes, the Universe is forever changing but inertia motion energy remains constant, thanks to the Aether. This Aether energy power needs to be calculated in a similar way as we would calculate DC electrical power, as in your motor car rather than the AC in your house. For our equation we could use the following symbols: - V = Pressure (as in volts) and (as in atmospheric or Aether)P = Watts (as in currant used)R = Resistance (as in sustaining electrons)I = Amperes (as in the flow of Aether currant)
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brooksquest
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Interesting stuff. How do you account for gravity on the Moon where there is little or no atmosphere? Our 14 psi atmospheric weight does not account for the all the gravity we measure. The moon has 1/trilliontrillionth our atmosphere, 1/80 our mass and 1/6 our gravity. I wrote a long paper on options for gravity last year while researching for months and I still do not know how it works. The paper dealt mostly with the relationship of the speed of orbiting bodies. The velocity and distance of the planets orbit the Sun does not decrease IAW the inverse square law. Distance or velocity x 4 = 1/2 gravity is what I found out.
Anyway, There may be an Aether, it may be what they think now is dark energy. Who knows yet? Cheers, BQ
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DavidMawer
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brooksquest:How do you account for gravity on the Moon where there is little or no atmosphere? Thank you ‘brooksquest’ for your input. As I see it the phenomena we call gravity is a side effect of all the electrons in the Universe being sustained by the Aether’s energy current. Using our electrical analogy lets’ say all the various electrical appliances in our home with their varying wattage consumption rates, represent the heavenly bodies in the Universe, each with their varying number of electrons that require energy to sustain them. The more electrons a Moon, Sun or Planet has, the greater is the gravitational force created as a result of the sustaining energy of the Aether. We could even equate one electron with one gravitron if there is such a unit of measure for gravity?
Best wishes,
DM
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brooksquest
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Would this mean that warm bodies (with more electron activity) would have greater "gravity" than cold bodies? BQ
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DavidMawer
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Hi, and thanks for this; -
"Would this mean that warm bodies (with more electron activity) would have greater "gravity" than cold bodies? "
This is a good question but first tell me what you mean by “(with more electron activity)”?
Best wishes,
DM
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brooksquest
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Warm or hot bodies are more active at the molecular level than very cold bodies. Was just thinking that if gravity was due to interaction between the Aether and molecules, then greater activity would produce greater gravity. I have read that there is research ongoing to levitate objects frozen at the molecular level which would of course shut down any gravitational "wave" production. If gravity is not a radiated wave then this freezing would not effect gravity. cheers, BQ
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DavidMawer
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Hi BQ It seems to me that warm or hot things are lighter, hot air is lighter than cold air, hence the Hot-air Balloon. But gravity as I see it is an affect caused by the Aether and not an entity in itself. Even ice is lighter than the same volume of water and water vapour is lighter than air and these facts, agree with my electron theory.
Please see amended article. Best wishes DM
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Lamoure Tribune

- Joined on 05-07-2008
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Do you think that maybe, the medium of light is an "Electro-Magnetic Aether", that is displaced in two dimensions(Electric and Magnetic). After all isn't light described as an electro-magnetic wave.
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Primordial
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Lamoure Tribune ! I suppose you could look at it that way, it would account for 2 dimensions at right angles to each other, but how could you relate their axies to the other 3 physical plus one time dimensional world? Could using the right hand or left hand rule, (depending on your choice of conventional current or electron flow teminology) be an option?
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Primordial
- Joined on 08-18-2007
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Lamoure Tribune ! I don't know if you'r familiar with virtual pairs or not , but if you are here is an idea I would like to run by you. Suppose just at the start of the big bang, there existed energy in the form of naked singularities and virtual pairs, next step, let the virtual pairs ( the most abundant of the two in population) become captured by the singularities (the least abundant of the two in population) ,(as in Hawking Radiation) thus producing black holes that would later become the cores of galaxies and during the same process produce matter, and inside the singularity produced black holes, capture the anti-matter half of the virtual pairs, thus keeping the two (matter, and anti-matter ) seperated, while during this process produce the CMB radiation. This would explain the missing abundant anti-matter, and the relationship of the supermassive black hole's size to the total mass of the galaxy.
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chipdatajeffB

- Joined on 07-16-2002
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DavidMawer:
Hi BQ It seems to me that warm or hot things are lighter, hot air is lighter than cold air, hence the Hot-air Balloon. But gravity as I see it is an affect caused by the Aether and not an entity in itself. Even ice is lighter than the same volume of water and water vapour is lighter than air and these facts, agree with my electron theory.
Please see amended article. Best wishes DM
Hot air is not lighter than cold air: it's less dense (which is not precisely the same thing).
Ice floats because it has air trapped inside it, not because it is inherently "lighter" than water. Ice IS water, with air trapped in it as it crystallizes. Ice expands relative to the volume it occupies as a liquid (because it crystallizes), so it becomes less dense (again, not the same thing as "lighter").
As to whether water vapor is lighter than air, it depends on a number of factors not intrinsic to the nature of the material itself (liquid H2O):
- ambient air temperature
- ambient air pressure
- wind currents
These factors, themselves, vary not only with time but also with altitude. Therefore, it's incautious to use these comparisons without specifying conditions (else someone might infer something you didn't mean to imply, as perhaps I did).
Also, since H20 is the basis for some of your examples, it's important to note that ice, water (liquid) and water vapor represent different phases of the same material. Phase changes often are accompanied by changes in physical characteristics. But if you start with the same mass of H2O, then freeze or heat it, any change in mass is due to the addition of other elements and you're not talking about pure H2O any longer unless the conditions are strictly controlled.
Your analogy that hot things are lighter than cold things does not match observation overall. Consider what happens when you heat metal in a closed vessel: the vessel and its contents do not change in mass, though they might change in volume. If they do not change in mass, they cannot change in weight (absent a change in the gravitational field within which they are weighed).
Such a change is more correctly called a change in density (mass per unit volume), rather than a change in weight (a measure of mass in a gravitational field).
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brooksquest
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Jeff, Did you know that a bucket (volume) of Hot water weighs more than an identical bucket of cold water? I was asking in this thread "IF" temperature had an effect on weight, wave activity or anything else that might support the originators idea. Cheers, BQ
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Lamoure Tribune

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Primordial. As you know, light has properties of both Waves and particles. With the idea of an "Electro-Magnetic Aether", you can address both "types" of descriptions. In the electric and magnetic dimensions, the wave structure of light is measured. In the other four dimensions, the particle structure of light is addressed.
But one of my questions is: If light is a particle, how can it cover two spots at once? And if it is a stream of particles, how long do they live?
Maybe a photon's charge affects the "Electro-Magnetic Aether" causing what seems to be a wave like particle.
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chipdatajeffB

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brooksquest:
Jeff,
Did you know that a bucket (volume) of Hot water weighs more than an identical bucket of cold water? I was asking in this thread "IF" temperature had an effect on weight, wave activity or anything else that might support the originators idea.
Cheers,
BQ
Again, this is a matter of volume and not mass. Cold water is more dense. If you have two identical volumes of H20 at different temperatures, then there is more mass in the cooler volume (it is more dense). In an identical gravitational field, the cooler bucketful weighs more because there is more in it, not because the individual atoms and molecules "weigh" more. They don't. They're identical except in volume/density.
So, yes, temperature has an effect on weight (because it changes density). Let's not be confused that warm molecules are lighter than cold molecules, for example. Are they more active? The atoms within them are. Does this change their energy? Yes, it does.
Does that change their (individual) weight? No, it does not. at least not to our ability to measure within the accuracy of college chemistry lab or physics lab equipment.
Ever study the mole concept in chemistry? Does the molecular weight of a substance change with temperature?
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Primordial
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Lamoure Tribune ! the electromagnetic wave is an object that functions through the characteristics of dynamic electric and magnetic fields with time retarded inductive propagating action, presented to this form of energy transfer through the medium of space-time, while the electromagnetic wave function energy exists as a wave function it does not posess the energy it will display once it has caused an event to occur in any system it may incounter, where it will change the energy of that object in its frame of reference. This is the reason the red shift can be observed between two seperate reference frames if their opening rate between the two systems is observed. Photons are final energy quanta after an event at the probable destination, and electromagnetic waves are functions of their energy source or of interference, before a probable event. The propagational rate of electromagnetic energy is determined by the two characteristics of permittivity and permeability of free space.
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DavidMawer
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"Do you think that maybe, the medium of light is an "Electro-Magnetic Aether", that is displaced in two dimensions (Electric and Magnetic). After all isn't light described as an electro-magnetic wave?" Answer:
If Light is in wave or particle form it would itself require a medium on which to communicate, in which case the Aether would fulfil this role. However I am of the opinion that light has no velocity only a reaction time, this is why electromagnetic signals do not interfere with each other when they cross paths. We can only see light when it interacts with something, enabling it to radiate its own unique properties, which it does through the Aether medium that is in all and through all.
Best wishes,
DM
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Primordial
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DavidMawer : The standard model, has the electric and magnetic transfer of energy through the characteristics of space-time, where space-time becomes the aether. Gravitational energy transfers, propagate through the relative magnitude changes of space-time.
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