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Nibiru in 2012?!
Last post 07-18-2008 10:02 PM by chipdatajeffB. 90 replies.
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  • 08-09-2007 12:16 PM

    Nibiru in 2012?!

    I was watching a show ad it said in 2012, earth will align with a massive black hole that will destroy the entire planet. They even got it to a specific time, decemer 21st, 7am, 2012. I went to look this up online, and poeple have soooo many other bad predictions for 2012 like metoers, masive earthquakes, super volcanoes destroying everything, and just plain end of the world. YET, some say that it will be a time when a new age begins and we get new senses or something like that, something evolutionary, or we get tons of new advancments in technology. I'm too afraid at the moment to look up anything else and the subject has been making me sick lately.

     Do you guys think this is true at all? (By the way, there have been so many end of the world predictions in the pst for dates before 2007, but I dont think so many have been on one single date)

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  • 08-09-2007 01:16 PM In reply to

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    Hogwash. Anyone who could make such predictions and do it accurately would be the richest person in the world.

    Just think a moment: Where is the alleged "massive black hole" now? We would have to be very nearby for its gravity to affect Earth in the slightest, much less "destroy the entire planet".

     

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  • 08-09-2007 02:06 PM In reply to

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    Its in the center of the milkyway... at least I think thats what they're saying
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  • 08-09-2007 02:43 PM In reply to

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    I was watching a show ad it said in 2012, earth will align with a massive black hole that will destroy the entire planet. They even got it to a specific time, decemer 21st, 7am, 2012. I went to look this up online, and poeple have soooo many other bad predictions for 2012 like metoers, masive earthquakes, super volcanoes destroying everything, and just plain end of the world. YET, some say that it will be a time when a new age begins and we get new senses or something like that, something evolutionary, or we get tons of new advancments in technology. I'm too afraid at the moment to look up anything else and the subject has been making me sick lately.

     Do you guys think this is true at all? (By the way, there have been so many end of the world predictions in the pst for dates before 2007, but I dont think so many have been on one single date)

    It';s fake.
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  • 08-09-2007 03:22 PM In reply to

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     Dan415 wrote:
    Its in the center of the milkyway... at least I think thats what they're saying

    Then that's where it will stay. It's quite happy there with all those other stars orbiting it. Nothing short of a merger with another large galaxy could dislodge it (probably not even that).

    We're not headed anywhere near it (we're orbiting it at a distance of about 30-35,000 light years (multiply that by 6 trillion to figure it in miles).

    Not to worry.

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  • 08-09-2007 03:57 PM In reply to

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    There's been no end of outlandish hype about the year 2012. A date in the Mayan caledar that has been used by psuedo-scientists for all sorts of gloom and doom prophesies.

    Now days instead of walking up and down the sidewalk wearing a sandwich board and preaching repent, they go to the internet.

    Or someone figures it's a good subject for a sci-fi horror flick. 

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  • 08-09-2007 04:12 PM In reply to

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    Enough of this hype and it will be a great moneymaker for a horror flick Lowell
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  • 08-09-2007 04:22 PM In reply to

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    Laugh [(-D]I think it already isWhistling [:-^]
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  • 08-09-2007 04:36 PM In reply to

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    Hehe, thanks guys, you've calmed me down about this. About the mayan thing, people say its a beggning of a new age, like they said 1985 was a beggining of a new age when tons of new technologies started to rise (such as the internet). 

     yet again, they say in 2012 that the earths poles will somehow flip, as said in ths article http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3359555.stm Think that's a hoax? Here's more info on the subject http://www.greatdreams.com/poleshift.htm

     I dont like all of these end of the world scientific and religious predictions

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  • 08-10-2007 02:11 PM In reply to

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    Ι don't believe it either.

    Strange though, today I was watching a travel program about Mexico, and it said that in an ancient Mexican Temple the inscriptions read that the end of the world would be 2012. Why always that date? argh. I still don't believe it though.

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  • 08-10-2007 07:05 PM In reply to

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    I'm not beleiving it aswell... Here's one way I think of it, If they were so intelligent, and accurate with predictions then why isnt their civilization still around? They must have made plenty of mistakes in the past.

     Also, there are always doomsday predictions, such as the ones listed in this link http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm. Just look at the many ones for the  year 2000. There will always be people predicting the end of the world... its one of the many questions that has puzzled us for years and years. 

     Yet, Im gonna be reincarnated as an alien if anything happens to the earth for some reason :D

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  • 08-10-2007 10:37 PM In reply to

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    that is something that no one should ever concern them selves with.  In fact i would venture to say that predicting and being scared of the "end" is part of nature.  humans have predicted the end for a long time now with little or no scientific evidence.  and most of the supposed dates have passed.  plus if we were to be struck by a space rock or gobbled up by a black hole... don't you think it would be sooooo fast you probly would not even know it happend?

    I know my answer is a little late... but i just kinda felt like throwing that in...

     

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  • 08-11-2007 07:18 PM In reply to

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    I greatly appreciate your answer Nasa, and its never too late to respond because I check this post from time to time. Im sorta nervous about 2012, I just cant really get it out of my head. As that fear starts to fade, the fear and wonder of an afterlife comes into my mind. 

     You know what I think is best for me, and I cant beleive Im saying this... I think the best thing for me is to wait for school to start and be glad I have things such as school work and grades to take keep me busy. 

     Also, If it happened so fast I wouldn't recognize any of it, but when you have a set date and time, it kinda makes you nervous and interfers with normal life. I just cant stop thinking of the "IF this bad thing happens...." its the "Ifs" lately that've been bothering me. I can't stop thinking of em at least a few times a day. Sad [:(]

      

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  • 08-12-2007 06:34 PM In reply to

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    the "IF this bad thing happens...." its the "Ifs" lately that've been bothering me. I can't stop thinking of em at least a few times a day.

    Wink [;)] Fear not Dan. The more you think of such just about ANYTHING will get you going, Mother natures just doing what She's always done, stumping us...sometimes (in this case) on dramtic level.

    As to the Mexican thingie something will happen, but remember the era that it was written, like the Bible itself, things happened, either politically or natures, (act of God if you like, as insurance companies like to say!), so don't fret now if it'll happen, it will happen, but not if at all the way said peoples said it would; look at that greatest doomsayer of them all....Nostradamus. There were things in his writings that he just couldn't put in the laungue of his day, hence the overly flowery speak.!

    All in all I'd be more worried what the Governments NOT doing by ignoring what the Greens are saying. True we're not helping, but Governments are by far making things worse, all for the sake of the "almighty" bloody dollar. Now if the yanks would get rid of that godawfull ghastly illiterate, linguistically challenged, morally bankrupt, WORST president they've EVER had, the world will heave a collative sigh of RELIEF, a closet despot American style or version (take your pick), that the real world could DO well without. Smile [:)]

     

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  • 08-13-2007 12:21 AM In reply to

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    Thanks alot steelclaw, I think this whole thing is outta my mind now Smile [:)]

     Now returning to black holes in the center of galaxies, is it possible that they could ever become full and stop sucking things into them? I was just wonerding this because someone said that as it takes in mass, the next mass always takes longer to suck in. 

     And another thing, I thought this was pretty funny, some guy said he read an article saything the the solar system will actually fly by the center of the milkyway and be suck in. Arent we on one of the spiral arms near the outer edge rotation around the center? Just curious about our location and all. 

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  • 08-13-2007 02:30 AM In reply to

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    Dan, I'm glad that your ok now, no frets. Wink [;)]

    As to your query...Well, as we know, so far anything within a flea's eye lash of said is quite and utterly bollard (English slang..and it's very rude!) Blush [:I] there's nothing that can survive a black hole...nothing .

    And everything I've read about black holes, makes Nostradamus look like a saint.!

    But on off chance their wrong (unlikely, how or never, regardless) it WOULD be interesting to put mildly, what

    is it possible that they could ever become full and stop sucking things into them?
    that in-it self is an interesting question, and someone far more qualified then I maybe able to answer you.

    But then that opens another can of worms, WHAT made the black hole STOP.? What, truly, awesome power, baring God that is!, stopped it in its tracks...and why AND more importantly... HOW.!!?

    And another thing, I thought this was pretty funny, some guy said he read an article saything the the solar system will actually fly by the center of the milkyway and be suck in. Arent we on one of the spiral arms near the outer edge rotation around the center? Just curious about our location and all.
    Damn that's something else. Please don't think I'm being a smart alack, but have you read Stephen Hawking's book 'A Brief History of Time' on said subject, absolutely stunning piece of work, truly. If not toddle off to your nearest library or book shop (store) near you asap.!

    Black holes are deadlier to everything in the known universe, and we're somewhere there...waiting, and nothing to help us...nothing.

    Some years ago in my 'wild' youth, I remember a comic called the Silver Surfer, he was a character who was under orders to seek out planets for him...GLALACTUS,! (spelling?) so he could devour planet/s, this was long, of sorts, before we knew of black holes..I think.!

    If 2012 accounts are to be believed, kiss your fathful behind good bye, otherwise stay calm, and if your working, be thankful your boss paid you that week.!!  Smile [:)]

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  • 08-13-2007 02:17 PM In reply to

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    Some of the more recent theories concerning black holes is that what they suck in is somehow expelled from white holes so there is never a true buildup inside the black hole.

    As for the Mayan Calendar, the 2012 predicrtion is in error.  The Mayans had a calendar of 18 months of 20 days per month or a total of 360 days.  They predicted that the current age would end 5,200 years after it's start in 3114 B.C.  Because of the supposed difference between the number of days in their year as compared to the number we know to be true those making the calculations multiplied 5,200 years by 360 days in a year for a total number of days then calculated the end date using that total number of days and came up with December 21, 2012. 

     However they failed to take into account that the Mayans actually had multiple calendars.  They also had a solar calendar that contained the same 18 months of 20 days each, but had an additional 5 days tacked on making it 365 days in a year, not 360.  That alone puts the calculation off by over 25,000 days.

    Now if you plugin 365.25 days per year, the accurate number which is closer to the 365 day solar calendar than the erred calculations using only the 360 day year, you come up with the following date which I believe to be far more accurate.  September 19, 2087

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  • 08-13-2007 07:59 PM In reply to

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    Hehe, Steelclaw, I wish I had a job and was gettin paid but Im just a student :P Also, your Nostradamus comment comforted me even more :D 

    And I heard something about the other callenders Digtal, thanks for the reassurance Smile [:)] Are you turning into a crazy doomsayer like all those other nuts with ur 2087 predictions?!? :P Hehe, Im just kidding. 


    ALSO, I was reading this site about the "galactic allignment" and they said the usually, "the earth will allign wiht the plane of the milkyway and bam we dead.. 

    Yeh, u know that stuff, they talk about pole shifts and that stuff but they added some fun new exciting twist.... They said that in 2012, the earth will be hit by a ton of galactic comsmic rays, cause many mutations to humans. He also said that unicorns and dragons also existed, they were mutated from other animals by cosmic rays. He also says pyramids are shelters from these rays, such as the mayan ones. Some person commented that his son was mutated and was born with an insect intenna from his back, and well you know, the CIA (as always) needs to spoil fun and amputate cosmic ray mutations. There goes my hopes for bein lizard man. Also, these rays can supposedly move around the earths' poles.

     Some guy from the site commented this  "every 65 million years or so the solar system pass through the galactic plan. our next tresspassing will be in 2012. The galactic plane is the most dense part of the galactic disk. that will be the best time for something to run into us, or us to run into something. - simple as that" funny stuff

    Plz share ur thoughts on this :D here's the site ---> here

     

     

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  • 08-24-2007 01:28 AM In reply to

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    I'd like to clear a few things up.

     First, to address the whole 2012 ordeal about how the mayan's predicted the "world would end" at this time is completely FALSE.

     A little history lesson for everyone. The mayan's acctually had created several calanders. The second calender that they made would start and end every 50 years.  You would think they would celebrate the end of the calander like we do for our new year, but not so. The mayan's acctually freaked out and worried like crazy every time the 50 year calander would end... so they decided to make a new calander that would last a lot longer (a couple hundred years). The third calander ENDS on 2012. But they NEVER said it would be the end of the world. On the contrary, 2012 might be a turning point for humanity in a positive way. All we know is that the calander ends on that day. Calanders end all the time... and start anew.

     Second, the whole "we're going to die because of a black hole at the center of our galaxy" is simply not so, even if it were true it would take a long time for us to acctually get "sucked" into this super massive black hole according to the scientists.

      

    Also, noone really knows what happens after you pass the Even Horizon of a black hole. I honestly don't believe that things are destroyed, rather redistributed to another point of the universe.

     

    Stop being so pessimistic ;)

     

     

     

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  • 08-24-2007 01:35 PM In reply to

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    2012 End date???  I think the reason why the Mayans picked 2012 is because they decided to stop counting days.  Let's say you decide to count days and position galactic alignments or planet alignments or the like.  Eventually you are gonna get sick of counting and say "Hell, if us Mayans still exist after "2012" then we will continue on making the calendar if not, we will just stop there. Now let's go procreate!!!"  That's what I think happened.
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