I know of a mechanical truth that allows us to accelerate a solid object to any desired speed. I have contacted some of the folks at NASA and quite a few Professors who have no idea how this is possible. This truth is not a theory. Technology exists today to achieve this. Particle accelerators are of course limited to the speed of whatever they are using to accelerate the particle. My idea is not a particle accelerator. If you have a similar vision or know something about this topic, let me hear from you.

Particle accelerators are limmited by the fact that going from 0.9999999c (at least i think thats the right no of decimal pts for the LHC hopes to get) to anything faster would require enormous amounts of energy. Im not sure what u mean by they are limited by the speed of what ever they use to accelerate the particle...they use the fastest thing known to man and universe; electromagnetic fields

I was always of the understanding that if an object reached 99% of the speed of light it doesn't have 1% to go it still has 100% to go as the speed of light is still the same no matter how fast an object travels?

relative to the accelerator structure the particles are traveling at 0.9..9 the speed of light as measured in a vaccum. If you measured the speed of light from the particles point of view you would notice that its exactly the same as for the accelerator itself even though the difference in speed between the particles and the accelerator is 0.9..9 the speed of light, sorry thats the thing about relativity frames of referance become important.

QUOTE: Originally posted by brooksquest

I know of a mechanical truth that allows us to accelerate a solid object to any desired speed. ....................If you have a similar vision or know something about this topic, let me hear from you.


I need more info... Are there any links to explanations of the "truth". Your posting is rather vague and you should present a few details...

The reason my original listing on this subject is vague is because I haven't found another soul who knows what I am talking about. My comment about particle accelerators being limited by whatever they use to accelerate particles means that if an accelerator uses magnetic fields to accelerate, then they won't surpass light speed, and are therefore "limited". The mechanical truth to which I refer is in fact and truth, not a theory or a fact but a truth. A truth is something that is proven 100%, always and forever true. It is a truth that any object can be accelerated to any desired speed. I am hoping to find a science research facility or perhaps a corporation interested in breaking the speed of light. If you haven't figured this truth out for yourself, don't fret, you are not alone. Obviously this riddle has escaped everyone else too.

Riddle??? What quacks and walks like a duck? Or, to put it another way... "The mechanical truth to which I refer is in fact and truth, not a theory or a fact but a truth."


anyway...

The replies I am looking for are from those out there that have a similar vision or know without direct prompting about the mechanical process I am suggesting. Can I be the only one who has this vision? Maybe that's why we aren't exploring the stars yet. Wasn't it Einstein himself that said that the greatest knowledge out there isn't what is written in books, but what lies in the minds of the human race? Much of what we will know in the future already exists in someone's mind, someone who might be an astrophysicist or someone who might be a simple musician or carpenter. Are you inspired to express your "new" idea or thoughts? or - Is your imagination limited to how your interpret someone else's information? If this is too heavy, let it go... if it is a vision you share, let me know.
Warmest regards to all...

At some point you are going to have to describe your idea or truth in exhaustive detail. If you are concerned about the theft of your idea and want to seek Intellectual Property Protection, consider filing a patent. You will need to perform a Prior Art search to ensure yours is a novel idea. Prior Art includes existing patents and any published and accredited works. It's best to perform this research on your own before filing IP protection.

If you want to discuss your idea in detail with a subject matter expert, you might ask that person to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement in the company of your lawyer.

Beyond this, you will need to fully disclose your idea.

kkkzzz
Thanks very much for the info on the Patent.
Because the idea is very simple, it may have been overlooked. I would love to just put it in the forum but it would also be nice if someone else had the same or a similar idea. It isn't new technology and that's why I can't believe someone out there doesn't know about it without prompting. In other words, if I were to ask you to show me how you could accelerate an object to any speed, would you be able to demonstrate it or explain within an hour or so. That is just how simple this is.
I will check on the patent.
Thanks again.

QUOTE: Originally posted by brooksquest

It is a truth that any object can be accelerated to any desired speed. I am hoping to find a science research facility or perhaps a corporation interested in breaking the speed of light. If you haven't figured this truth out for yourself, don't fret, you are not alone.


Hhhmmm i think einstein is turning in his grave. I like the way you presume like minded people will answer ur call even though u dont actualy say what your thinking about appart from a few non-scientific utterances.

There is nothing worse than someone who likes pretending they know more than others and continue spouting on about this extra knowledge without actualy being willing to place it in front of people who may or may not agree with it and may or may not be able to pick holes in it.

Strange to post a question which one knows that no-one else has an answer to? By 'mechanical truth' I assume brooksquest means normal everyday Newtonian mechanics?

Its a misconception that Einstein stated that special relativity infers than light speed cannot be exceeded. He was not concerned about the speed of light as a 'barrier'. But a key consequence of relativity is that the energy of a particle of rest mass m moving with speed v is given by E = mc2/sqrt(1 - v2/c2) -

So as the speed approaches the speed of light, the mass and hence the energy required to accelerate that mass approaches infinity. Hence is should be impossible to accelerate an object with rest mass to the speed of light.

So this 'mechanical truth' brooksquest is talking about must exploit some fundamental flaw in the relationship between mass and energy that only he understands and which has never before been exploited.

Incidentally, superluminal speeds are actually possible -

1.Cherenkov radiation is light emitted by charged particles when they travel through a medium faster than the speed of light in that medium.

2.Microwaves can propagate through gas and travel at up to 300 times lightspeed - but no actual information can be transferred - but various papers have appeared since 2001 confirming it. (the signal actually exits the experimental environment before it has entered!!).

3. Scalar and shear wave accelerations, tranversing the actual direction of travel, can also theoretically propagate FTL.

But a mechanical process based in Newtonian mechanics cannot accelerate a solid object to or beyond c.

MarkST and Flynnstone,
MarkST's response is exactly what I was looking for. I realize that everyone out there can fathom the concept. That is why I filtered the subject. MarkST, please email me at brooksquest@yahoo.com and I will give you the mechanical truth for your review.
Thanks!

You know... I once dated a girl who expected me to read her mind. She said that if we were going to be truely compatable and happy, this would become second nature.

We parted not long after that.

QUOTE: Originally posted by brooksquest

MarkST's response is exactly what I was looking for.


Was it? My statement (and my understanding) is that no mechanical process can accelerate a solid object with a rest mass to or beyond c.

The original queation in this thread was aimed at inferring that some day we could use a practical form of faster-than-light-speed travel to cross interstellar space, and that the mechanism would be based on some already proven mechanical truth... right?

E = mc2/sqrt(1 - v2/c2) effectively rules out a bunch of NASA scientists in the far future from jumping in a spaceship and accelerating to and past lightspeed - no matter how they propel the craft, or where they launch it from, or what speed they start out with, or even what the ship is made of (assuming its baryonic of course and not bosonic)..

Well he's obviousaly not going to say anything that would actualy contribute to the topic so i would say its a case of 'it cant be that important time to forget''.

Mark and Flynn,
Thanks for your thoughts. Although Flynn has little patience and bit of an attitude problem. I can see now that the answer you are giving is "NO" neither of you know of a way to accelerate a solid mass to any desired speed. That let's me know that this question is for someone else. Someone with a similar idea or someone with a creative imagination. So... anyone else who has pondered this, type in a reply. The answer that I discovered did not require a vast knowledge of Science or any ability to write equations. However it can be expressed in a common everyday mechanical equation.

I would say it's not possible.

However I would pose a question as well. It's my understanding that nutrinos travel at the speed of light. But if they indeed have a small mass as recent theories predict, then how is that possible? According to Einstein, if it has mass it can't travel at or above the speed of light.

c+1