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Dark Energy Theory
Last post 11-19-2009 05:38 AM by TAET. 65 replies.
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  • 08-31-2009 01:21 AM In reply to

    • TAET
    • Joined on 05-17-2009
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    Re: Dark Energy Theory

    RIP_Shadowfox:

     why would uneven space-time or uneven dark energy affect the lower energy photons more than the higher energy photons? also, congratulations on getting your paper published!

    Thankyou RIP_Shadowfox.

    More data and examples are still very much required. It has not yet even been absolutely determined that the time difference between the low and high energy photons are not actually being produced at the source point itself. It is still too early to know for sure what is causing the anomaly.

    Assuming the difference is due to the large distance travelled through space-time to reach us, attempts to explain it using currently understood phenomenon, of say refractive index dispersion or others, do not yet fully seem to fit the data.

    One theoretical explanation is that related to quantum gravity. Some theories of quantum gravity predict that space-time isn’t continuous, but is variable and foamy. Because of this quantum gravity foaminess, it is claimed not all photons would travel at the same speed.

    According to E=mc2, higher energy also means a higher mass, and therefore a higher gravitational potential.

    Basically, because the higher energy photons mean they have a higher gravitional potential than the lower ones, they would therefore be more effected (tugged on) by the quantum gravity of space. Though extremely tiny the difference, over long distances, this extra tug on them would all add up. Those photons with higher gravitational potential (higher energies) would therefore travel slightly slower through space-time, and arrive slightly later than lower energy photons.

    Though, admittedly my theoretical model of dark energy is quite different from those of quantum gravity and loop quantum gravity, it's intrinsic energy, over long distances, would also have a greater effect (drag) on higher energy photons, than the lower energy ones. Actually, this effect would happen regardless of it was patchy or not. (I also assume that loop quantum gravity's foaminess is not as relevant as initially suggested for its effect on higher energy photon's as well. Just the fact, that if it existed, may be enough to cause the effects measured).

    All this theorising though is still too early to tell with the limited data we have. More data is needed. Thanks for the question, and I also apologise for the long answer. I have a habit of doing that.

    Cheers.

  • 08-31-2009 07:55 AM In reply to

    Re: Dark Energy Theory

    TAET : I am interested in some of what you say, but from a different approach. I would like some information from you, If I may, do you have a web site that this data came from, and if so do you have one set of data from the University of Texas at Austin?

  • 09-01-2009 08:34 PM In reply to

    • TAET
    • Joined on 05-17-2009
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    Re: Dark Energy Theory

    Primordial:

    TAET : I am interested in some of what you say, but from a different approach. I would like some information from you, If I may, do you have a web site that this data came from, and if so do you have one set of data from the University of Texas at Austin?

    The original article I read about the late light anomaly was from the New Scientist magazine, which can also be viewed from their web site http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327210.900-late-light-reveals-what-space-is-made-of.html?page=1 .

    Here are just some articles I have found around which relate to the above, which may help: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0708/0708.2889v3.pdf, http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0906/0906.3731v2.pdf, http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0901/0901.2932v1.pdf, and http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/astro-ph/pdf/0702/0702008v3.pdf.

    As for the University of Texas at Austin, I don't have any data or information (sorry). I hope this has helped some though.

    Good luck with your research.

  • 09-02-2009 05:56 AM In reply to

    Re: Dark Energy Theory

    TAET : Thank you very much, this is what I have been looking for. I think I have your answer. It is a process related to my concept and uses Mr. Hawkings quantum exchange but can only be a result of extremely high energy gamma photons as stepping stones.

    Thank you, thank you thank you.

  • 09-06-2009 04:55 PM In reply to

    • bruth
    • Joined on 03-28-2009
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    Re: Dark Energy Theory

    I would think DE and DM (phantom/strange/exotic) actually assist one another in producing their phenomenom thereby increasing their magnitude.

    Amazing how AE's biggest blunder, as he stated, has turned out not to be a blunder at all and even though he found Newton's laws of motion flawed, he admired IN greatly.

    Bruth 

    "Nature to him was an open book, whose letters he could read without effort." AE on IN

     

     

  • 11-19-2009 05:38 AM In reply to

    • TAET
    • Joined on 05-17-2009
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    Re: Dark Energy Theory

                             UPDATE No .2.

    I have recently read about a distant gamma ray result measured, from the website http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/features/news/news.html (28th October 2009).

    On May 10 2009 a gamma ray burst of 2.1 seconds was seen. It had been shown by information from Fermi's LAT (Large Area Telescope), that there was an insignificant time delay (0.9 seconds) between the high and low energy photons, travelled over a distance of more than 7 billion light years. This is not as large a delay as previously calculated from previous gamma ray bursts and measurements by other scientists.

    It was stated by Peter Michelson, principal investigator of Fermi's Large Area Telescope (LAT), at Stanford University in Palo Alto, Calif, that "This measurement eliminates any approach to a new theory of gravity that predicts a strong energy dependent change in the speed of light,". "To one part in 100 million billion, these two photons traveled at the same speed. Einstein still rules."

    There then seams to be a problem with the results between these findings and that of the Late Light gamma ray examples. There will be a reason for it somewhere. But for now, it appears that photons are not affected by some sort of quantum gravity or dark energy, if it exists. Obviously with further research and data, we will better understand what is happening later down the track.

    For now, this is great news.

    The TADEET model states that atoms continuosly create and expel dark energy. This very process is why atoms are affected by it. Recalling my earlier Twin Tubes experiment, I proposed using atoms, neutrons and photons to see if any or all of the components are affected by dark energy.

    If the TADEET model is correct, atoms will definitely be affected, but not necessarily neutrons or photons. The results above, could therefore possibly indicate that photons are not affected by dark energy. They pass straight through it, unhindered. That would also imply that photons are not like little machines, as atoms may be, and therefore do not produce and expel their own dark energy. This is great. It means that photons would not be required to be included in the Twin Tubes experiment. Though including them still would help re-confirm the results.

    I am currently attempting to design a new experiment that is cheaper and more practical to perform. I have one idea which I'll publish here when I eventually finish the design specs.

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