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Last post 11-19-2009 05:38 AM by TAET. 65 replies.
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TAET

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RIP_Shadowfox:
TAET:
2.) THE PIONEER ANOMALY.
- The two Pioneer spacecraft heading in different directions out from our solar system, are both slowing down more than what they should be (taking all the gravity of the sun and planets, stray cosmic particles and atoms, etc, into account). This also supports the TADEET model, as this is what the model would predict to happen.
would you be able to explain how the theory predicts this happening? is it that it seems like its slowing because space is expanding around it? is space really expanding that fast?
Thanks.
I briefly touched on this earlier on, near the start, but will endevour to shed some more light on how this occurs.
I'll try and use a metaphor (which I usually find only gets me into more trouble than what they're sometimes worth). But I'll go ahead anyway.
The effect of the spacecraft slowing down is not because of the DE (space) being expelled from the spacecraft itself and expanding outwards. This process is happening, but is EXTREMELY negligible in the scheme of it all.
But when you combine ALL the atoms DE output in our solar system together (and don't forget, even in interplanetary space, there are floating atoms all around. I think I read somewhere, something like 1 atom every cubic centimeter or there abouts, is out there, everywhere - But these are not the ones slowing the craft down the amount it is. This was taken into account), it adds up to a large amount of continuously outflowing DE. Because the DE is mainly densest at the centre of our solar system due to the mass of our sun (there will be dense spots around Jupiter and Saturn due to their mass as well), the DE gets pushed outwards to lesser, dense areas, from the centre of our solar system continuing all the way out.
Imagine a 'river' of ALL the combined DE flowing out from the centre of our solar system, all the way out, and eventually joining other 'rivers', from other nearby solar systems.
Now, imagine our solar systems DE 'river' is flowing at about 10 km/hr, and the spacecraft which is swimming through the DE 'river' (as a person may in a real river), is trying to swim outwards as well, at about 30 km/hr. You can now see that the spacecraft is trying to travel 20 km/hr faster and through the outward flowing DE 'river'.
This is where the resistance comes in and slows the swimmer (spacecraft) down. You also need to remember that the spacecraft is NOT continuously pushing through the DE 'river' with continuous propulsion. It had ONE HUGE PUSH at the start of its journey, and then was left up to its own momentum to keep going. That is why the DE 'river' is slowing the two spacecraft down. And once they slow down to the same speed of the DE 'river' (10 km/hr), then they will just flow along and coast with it (minus any gravity still tugging on them from the sun and planets, trying to pull them even further backwards).
I hope this has helped clear that up for you. Thanks for your question. It was a good one for me to help further clarify things.
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RIP_Shadowfox

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im still not entirely sure where the resistance comes from. if the craft is flying at a certain speed of its own and its also being pushed by the DE, wouldn't it continue to travel at a certain speed? i don't understand why simply traveling within the flow of DE would slow it down to the same speed as the DE.
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HalterEgo

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Hello again,
English is not my first language so i will be brief.
The awerage density of space with the thermodinamics known to us and the speed of two dots in space over time would mean that the Universe would behave quite different. The model you get is pretty much what happenes when for an example, you try to inflate a baloon: It picks up momentum when enough DE is accumulated and slows down when it reaches certain distance between the two spots. That would mean that more and more of DE is needed as space gets bigger and would finally get to a point where it would need an enormous amount of energy from each atom. That also mean that space would constantly change the paste of expansion. Finally, if atoms are not able to produce that much energy, gravitational force would start to take effect untill it reaches critical level of DE in the unit of space again, which would then allow the expansion again.
I think you are wasting your time with this one, but don't let it discourage you. Einstein once said:quote " It's not that I am so smart, it is just that I stay with problems longer".
Bye
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fluflu
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You have a very good theory which you called " The Atomic Emission Theory " ( TAET). This idea perhaps can be applied to some other enteties but not the Atom as to be used as an explanation to Dark Energy. Light is a formed of energy and as you know light is made out of photons and photons fades out that is they loose their energy this is also a particle that is no longer active. Dark Energy and Dark Matter are some other formed that may had derived from the collisions of other matters or a combinations of matter including the Atom. What it is not is a waste product of some other matter or of the Atom. I do agree to some extend that the Atom may release some formed of waste product as an emission but again science knows a great deal about the Atom and by now it will had found such emission as you are postulating. This TAET can be best apply to the BBT and which may have some relation to the construction of the Backgound Radiation which in turned may had influence or is influencing Gravity in the general Cosmical Universe. Again, you are developing a very good theory that may be tested through experiments and observation. Such a theory can also be developed into a book, congratulation and keep following your intuitions. You are a Scientist.
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RIP_Shadowfox

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fluflu:Dark Energy and Dark Matter are some other formed that may had derived from the collisions of other matters or a combinations of matter including the Atom. What it is not is a waste product of some other matter or of the Atom. if we have no idea what dark energy is, how can we say that it cant be a waste product? if we cant detect it, how would we have seen it coming from atoms or not?
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TAET

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RIP_Shadowfox:
im still not entirely sure where the resistance comes from. if the craft is flying at a certain speed of its own and its also being pushed by the DE, wouldn't it continue to travel at a certain speed? i don't understand why simply traveling within the flow of DE would slow it down to the same speed as the DE.
Thanks.
My first preference in trying to explain things to people is using pictures and drawings. I also like using items. The other day, when explaining this theory to my friend who was visiting, I used some ornimental glass beads, as atoms and galaxies. And my hands and fingers and movement as DE. I love using actions. They say a thousand words. Explaining complex things and ideas using just language, is always a very difficult thing to do.
So I've come up with a very easy experiment for you to try. You need to actually do it, to understand it well. Thinking about an experiment doesn't always give you a real (and sometimes can be quite wrong) perception of it. DOING experiments is very powerful is solidifying an idea or concept in your mind.
OK. Here is your experiment for you to try out.
1.) Go to the park on a day when there is a VERY LIGHT breeze of wind, coming STEADILY from one direction. This is very important! The breeze MUST be light and steady.
2.) Face the breeze head on. Feel the light breeze on your face. Imagine this is Dark Energy coming towards you, from the centre of a solar system. Imagine you are a Pioneer spacecraft.
3.) Turn your body around 180 degrees. Feel the light breeze on your back. Can you feel the 'LIGHT PRESSURE' of it on your back?
4.) NOW RUN VERY FAST, with the wind! AS FAST AS YOU CAN RUN! KEEP RUNNING for as long as you can! Observe and feel the wind around you.
5.) What did you feel?
When you have done the experiment, please write back with your results you experienced.
I look forward to your reply.
Cheers.
PS: Be careful when running in the park, especially if it has recently rained and the ground is wet.
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TAET

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Hi,
Just received this information from a qualified and published physicist from another Forum, in relation to TADEET, so I thought I would post it here for all to read. All information is welcomed and useful.
Patrick's reply was,
"It is an hypothesis and not a theory. On brief reading it seems to contradict several well tested "laws", not least conservation of energy, reciprocity and quantum mechanics (all tested to very high order and found to agree with predictions) . All of which would need new small (presumably) correction terms. You need to make predictions that can be tested experimentally, and show that it is consistant with current laws of physics at the levels tested so far, otherwise it will have no real scientific credence. "
A thankyou to Patrick. I will look into, and read further information relating to the above and keep you posted. This may take a while.
Cheers.
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fluflu
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We don't need to see Dark-Energy to visualized an effect or a cause. There must be a starting place as to what is causing some phenomenom to take place. For science it seems that there are other major players behing the making of the UNIVERSE. This unseen power they had called it " DARK-ENERGY " and along with it " DARK-MATTER ". I agree with this two terms cause they make sense since in our visual Universe energy and matter are both at work. For this forum the concerned is if Dark-Energy is a waste product of the Atom and my respond in short is that so far science has not detected such waste from an Atom. I will think that there may be some other waste from some other place which may be a combination of everything that is in " SPACE " . I would like to developed a theory as to how " SPACE " came about which is not from any BB or BBT. Again dark-energy may be just a mirror image of all existence and reflecting back to hold everything in place but to make such assumptions is to asked " whats behind the " DARK-ENERGY ". As we go deeper and deeper we developed pertinent questions as though discovering the number " ONE " and them discovering the number " ZERO ". We then go further and discover the next number which is a negative " ZERO " but we are yet to discover the next number that goes beyong and creates a new mathematic. Whats beyong " DARK-Energy" and " DARK-MATTER " is something like looking for that new Number which will create a new SCIENCE and this is what will happen when it comes to light. Thats a whole new world that has more information as to the making of the UNIVERSE --- a Universe behing another Universe. The main fabric holding all of existence is " SPACE " and for my thinking and question is: " is SPACE made of something ? " or is Space the just that " NOTHINGNESS ". Something which is not created it just " is ".
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TAET

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TAET:
Hi,
Just received this information from a qualified and published physicist from another Forum, in relation to TADEET, so I thought I would post it here for all to read. All information is welcomed and useful.
Patrick's reply was,
"It is an hypothesis and not a theory. On brief reading it seems to contradict several well tested "laws", not least conservation of energy, reciprocity and quantum mechanics (all tested to very high order and found to agree with predictions) . All of which would need new small (presumably) correction terms. You need to make predictions that can be tested experimentally, and show that it is consistant with current laws of physics at the levels tested so far, otherwise it will have no real scientific credence. "
A thankyou to Patrick. I will look into, and read further information relating to the above and keep you posted. This may take a while.
Cheers.
With the above reply in mind I have gone off and done some further research and reading. I have broken the above reply into 2 components to look into.
First is the 'Conservation of Energy' which I will address now, and the second is the 'Reciprocity', which I am still researching and reading further on which may take some time. Quantum mechanics is quite general and will be covered in both areas.
Conservation of Energy:
Wikipedia: The law of conservation of energy states that the total amount of energy in an isolated system remains constant.
This I have also broken down into two parts.
The Atomic Engine Theory has been broken up into smaller component theories or areas of research. They are TAPSyT, TAPSmT and TADEET. It is the TAPSyT component that will be required to supply a solution for the energy inflow, whilst the TADEET component deals with the 'waste' energy outflow.
Though it sounds a little convenient, it is often done in many fields of study to assist in specialisation, and as to uncomplicate the complicated. For example the study of the human body can be broken up into different fields say of the Nervous System, Circulatory System, Reproductive System and so on and so on. People will often specialise in one main system, whilst others will generalise in all. This breakdown of specialisation can also be done to other mechanical systems such as the automobile. There are engine specialists, transmission specialists, auto electrical specialists and so on.
TADEET does not claim to be making energy from nothing. It is a waste product due to the working process's within the atom (outflow 'waste' energy). To maintain the 'Conservation of Energy' principle, the TAPSyT component will be required to fulfil this explanation. As yet, there are other fields of theoretical research such as in String Theory, Gravitational Theory, and others which may or may not solve this component. Even if they are unable to solve to TAPSyT inflow problem today, other fields of research and ideas may arise further down the track.
Then there is the complex study of quantum mechanics and general relativity. As I have been reading, I have found that there are still many facets which are yet to be resolved. One website which was interesting was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsolved_problems_in_physics. There also appear to still be unresolved issued between quantum laws and general relativity(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mechanics), with quantum theory's historical estimate of the vacuum energy density in the universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy) and many more, even though there have been great amounts of research and experiments to help build up the models we know and use today.
Definately more research is required! But as mentioned before, experiments and collecting further data will only assist in helping to solve some of these problems. I am attempting to devise a 'cheaper' experiment which may be run to help establish if TADEET is correct or not. This is not going to be easy! (any ideas anyone?)
As for 'Reciprocity' I will need to read, and research further, before getting back to you on this issue.
Cheers.
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fluflu
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The Pioneer Anomaly is due to other causes such as escaping from the gravity which may be stronger the further the craft gets from the Sun and other objects. Its like a " Push " and " shove ". The influence of the gravity at its most distance point and the reentering into another " Space " sort of speaking where there may be a gap before the craft come into the influence of others phenomenom with gravitational nfluence. Something like two magnet when place to repel each other --- this is what may be causing the crafts to slow down. Dark Energy has nothing to do with it ------
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lowry
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Briefly, Dark Energy (DE) are the emissions produced as a waste product, from all atoms.
The immediate problem I see with this is that this would rip bodies in our solar system apart septillions of times faster than the expansion of spacetime; after all, the density of Earth is 5.5g/cm3 while interstellar matter has a density of just 10-24g/cm3 (source).
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TAET

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lowry:
Briefly, Dark Energy (DE) are the emissions produced as a waste product, from all atoms.
The immediate problem I see with this is that this would rip bodies in our solar system apart septillions of times faster than the expansion of spacetime; after all, the density of Earth is 5.5g/cm3 while interstellar matter has a density of just 10-24g/cm3 (source).
Thankyou very much.
I enjoyed the information, and liked the web site you sourced. It's very good. Thankyou.
To understand why the bodies (I assume planets, etc) in our solar system would not be ripped apart by the Dark Energy (DE) emission, we need to take a closer look at the 'tiny' atom. After that, we will then put all the information together again to obtain an overall perspective of what is happening.
Firstly, the Atom is mainly all empty 'space'.
(as to not get theoretically too far ahead of myself and cause to much confusion, I won't discuss the possibilities of the inside atomic 'space', being a different type of 'space' to that of the outside of the atom. These are thoughts and ideas way too ahead yet to even be contemplated. For now the space inside the atom will be considered to be the same as that outside of the atom.)
If a Hydrogen atom was the size of 1.6 Kilometres (1 Mile) in diameter, the nucleus in the centre would only be the size of about a small marble! That's right! In between all that, is all 'space'! WOW! http://education.jlab.org/atomtour/fact3.html. And this is just the simplest atom with only one electron, one proton, and one neutron. Larger atoms with more shells of electrons would span out even further with a greater amount of inside 'space'.
Now imagine two atoms bonded together. Some only connect to each other from the outer reaches of their electron shells, and some further in. http://www.chemit.co.uk/uploads/java/rsc_periodicity/index.htm. This means that there are also gaps of 'space' between connecting atoms. http://www.nanomesh.ch/results1.php and http://webphysics.davidson.edu/alumni/jocowan/STM/stmimage.htm.
Then the connecting atoms also create complex three dimensional structures which also have, relatively, 'huge' amounts of 'space' between them as well. http://chemed.chem.purdue.edu/genchem/topicreview/bp/ch13/unitcell.php.
And all this 'space' so far, is just within the atoms, and also between each of their bonds.
Then comes all the 'space' between the connected atoms of say one group of gold atoms and another 'floating' group of say argon atoms. These distances between groups of bonded atoms can be massive. The web site you listed above (http://cass.ucsd.edu/public/tutorial/ISM.html) is just one of many which show how spread out atoms can be in interstellar 'space' for example. Sometimes as little as only one atom in one cubic centimeter.That is a massive amount of empty 'space'.
When you add up all this 'space', it comes to ALOT of empty 'space'!
I'll now get to explaining why the planets or other bodies would not get ripped apart. The rate of DE being produced from each atom would be extremely small. It would also therefore be expelled out from the atom at a very slow speed, causing the local expansion of space to be both small and slow. It would be less than that which would force apart the 'stronger' bonds between the atoms, due to the surrounding spaces between atoms and groups of atoms being large enough for the building pressure of DE to escape outwards.
IMAGINE trying to catch water from a houshold tap using a wire sieve, with holes the size of your fist (the gaps between the atoms). The water just falls straight through the sieve with almost insignificant amount of resistance. The DE is something like this, and falls past all the atoms through their large gaps between them with almost no resistance at all. Yes, there will be some tiny resistance, and this is what contributes to the movements of atoms around their local 'space', even deep within our planet.
I hope this has helped, if not anything, given you some more places to read up further on atoms, their sizes, their bonds, and their wonderful structures they make. Enjoy.
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lowry
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I'm aware of the structure of atoms. I don't think you've explained anything. Given that the density of matter in stars and other solar system bodies is some multiple of 1024 times greater than that of the interstellar medium, the density of dark energy flowing out of galaxies ought to be that much greater -- billions upon billions of times 1024, for that matter, given the number of dense bodies in galaxies. This is to say nothing of supermassive black holes.
Whatever effect dark energy has on the acceleration of the expansion of spacetime, it ought to be doing that to the spacetime in and around galaxies almost infinitely more than it does in intergalactic space, in your model. Galaxies ought then to be ballooning to unimaginable volumes (ie. they ought to be torn apart). How would light be able to keep up with these expansions? We ought to see unimaginable redshifts to the light coming from galaxies -- or, more likely, no light at all.
Sorry, I think you are either naive or perhaps pulling some kind of prank, in your promotion of this hypothesis (not theory).
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AnonymousRex
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I don't think you understand what Iowry was trying to tell you. Either that or you're just doing this for a laugh. Either way, I'll bite. The ratio of stuff to space in the structure of the atom is irrelevant to Iowry's observation regarding your hypothesis. What is relevant is the density of matter in a given space and how it relates to the forces of attraction and expansion. If the expansion force did, as you suggest, radiate from atoms, and if the relatively small number of atoms present in a volume of "empty" intergalactic space can send two galaxies flying apart but not pull them together, then, logically, the expansion force emanating from any single spec of matter would have to be far greater than the attractive force of any single spec of matter. We do not observe this. In fact, we observe the opposite. We observe that the higher the concentration of matter, the weaker the expansion. As a means to rationalize the fact that matter actually manages to come together and stay together, you say this force would be small. Meanwhile, your own hypothesis disagrees with you. Your hypothesis requires that the expansion force "per atom" must be many, many times greater than the attractive force "per atom". Your hypothesis requires that the formation of structures is an impossible task, because matter could never come together to form anything with substantial gravity in the first place. And yet, the universe would appear to be chock full of stars, planets and galaxies.
Imagination is important, but then so is basic logic. You can't go on about "rivers" and "wind" and "alternate dimensions" while ignoring something as simple as the existence of the Earth, which would have been impossible if your idea were sound.
And may I say, for someone who presumes to casually and repeatedly suggest that others are in need of "further reading", it appears as though you are in dire need of some reading material yourself.
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TAET

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TAET:
lowry:
Briefly, Dark Energy (DE) are the emissions produced as a waste product, from all atoms.
The immediate problem I see with this is that this would rip bodies in our solar system apart septillions of times faster than the expansion of spacetime; after all, the density of Earth is 5.5g/cm3 while interstellar matter has a density of just 10-24g/cm3 (source).
Thankyou very much.
I enjoyed the information, and liked the web site you sourced. It's very good. Thankyou.
To understand why the bodies (I assume planets, etc) in our solar system would not be ripped apart by the Dark Energy (DE) emission, we need to take a closer look at the 'tiny' atom. After that, we will then put all the information together again to obtain an overall perspective of what is happening.
Firstly, the Atom is mainly all empty 'space'.
(as to not get theoretically too far ahead of myself and cause to much confusion, I won't discuss the possibilities of the inside atomic 'space', being a different type of 'space' to that of the outside of the atom. These are thoughts and ideas way too ahead yet to even be contemplated. For now the space inside the atom will be considered to be the same as that outside of the atom.)
If a Hydrogen atom was the size of 1.6 Kilometres (1 Mile) in diameter, the nucleus in the centre would only be the size of about a small marble! That's right! In between all that, is all 'space'! WOW! http://education.jlab.org/atomtour/fact3.html. And this is just the simplest atom with only one electron, one proton, and one neutron. Larger atoms with more shells of electrons would span out even further with a greater amount of inside 'space'.
Now imagine two atoms bonded together. Some only connect to each other from the outer reaches of their electron shells, and some further in. http://www.chemit.co.uk/uploads/java/rsc_periodicity/index.htm. This means that there are also gaps of 'space' between connecting atoms. http://www.nanomesh.ch/results1.php and http://webphysics.davidson.edu/alumni/jocowan/STM/stmimage.htm.
Then the connecting atoms also create complex three dimensional structures which also have, relatively, 'huge' amounts of 'space' between them as well. http://chemed.chem.purdue.edu/genchem/topicreview/bp/ch13/unitcell.php.
And all this 'space' so far, is just within the atoms, and also between each of their bonds.
Then comes all the 'space' between the connected atoms of say one group of gold atoms and another 'floating' group of say argon atoms. These distances between groups of bonded atoms can be massive. The web site you listed above (http://cass.ucsd.edu/public/tutorial/ISM.html) is just one of many which show how spread out atoms can be in interstellar 'space' for example. Sometimes as little as only one atom in one cubic centimeter.That is a massive amount of empty 'space'.
When you add up all this 'space', it comes to ALOT of empty 'space'!
I'll now get to explaining why the planets or other bodies would not get ripped apart. The rate of DE being produced from each atom would be extremely small. It would also therefore be expelled out from the atom at a very slow speed, causing the local expansion of space to be both small and slow. It would be less than that which would force apart the 'stronger' bonds between the atoms, due to the surrounding spaces between atoms and groups of atoms being large enough for the building pressure of DE to escape outwards.
IMAGINE trying to catch water from a houshold tap using a wire sieve, with holes the size of your fist (the gaps between the atoms). The water just falls straight through the sieve with almost insignificant amount of resistance. The DE is something like this, and falls past all the atoms through their large gaps between them with almost no resistance at all. Yes, there will be some tiny resistance, and this is what contributes to the movements of atoms around their local 'space', even deep within our planet.
I hope this has helped, if not anything, given you some more places to read up further on atoms, their sizes, their bonds, and their wonderful structures they make. Enjoy.
NOTE: We know there is a huge amount of thermal activity within our sun and some of the planets such as Jupiter, Saturn and even our Earth. Maybe as lowry suggests the Dark Energy is trying to rip them apart. Trying to escape, and contributing to the large pressures building up inside our planets cores. Of course we know of the nuclear reactions in the sun, but maybe lowry was right and that the Dark Energy IS also adding to the effect and partially trying to rip it apart as it continually builds up and attempts to escape the inner core to the outer layers. And only the strong gravitational forces keeps them together.
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lowry
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TAET:Maybe as lowry suggests the Dark Energy is trying to rip them apart. Trying to escape, and contributing
to the large pressures building up inside our planets cores. Of course
we know of the nuclear reactions in the sun, but maybe lowry was right
and that the Dark Energy IS also adding to
the effect and partially trying to rip it apart as it continually
builds up and attempts to escape the inner core to the outer layers. And only the strong gravitational forces keeps them together.
I just want to make it clear that I wasn't suggesting of the sort, and that I think there's no evidence for your hypothesis, and it doesn't make sense, or explain anything, and it makes easily falsified predictions. Cheers.
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TAET

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IMPORTANT "POINT TO BE REMEMBERED"
TADEET is NOT a CLAIMED FACT.
For ANYTHING at all in this universe to be CLAIMED as being FACT, it MUST ALWAYS have strong supportive EVIDENCE (usually a vast amount of), and /or direct PROOF, and NO CONTRADICTIVE EVIDENCE.
Because TADEET lacks this strong supportive evidence (direct or indirect), or proof, it therefore is NOT CLAIMED to be a FACT.
IT IS A PERSONAL VIEW! A personal idea, a personal opinion, a personal conjecture, a personal hypothesis, a personal theory, based on 'my' limited knowledge. NOT a CLAIMED FACT.
I even wrote this in the first thread with, " . . expressing my idea . .", " . . I believe which may explain . .", " . . my Theory . .", and "I call my idea . .".
I apologise to anyone who may have had the impression that I was trying to pass this off as some kind of FACT. Only something with Strong Supportive Evidence, or proof, can be CLAIMED as FACT! And I know TADEET lacks this component.
That is why I have posted 'my' Idea (Hypothesis, conjecture, opinion, ect). Hopefully using the collective knowledge of the planet and this forums readers, I may be able to collect further supporting evidence I am unaware of (if there is any). And of course any EVIDENCE that would also disprove my idea. Again, I apologise now for any past, or future writings in which people may get the wrong impression that I am CLAIMING this idea of mine to be a FACT.
Thankyou for your all posts, and Cheers.
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fluflu
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The contributions of one boby to another does not constitute the formation or creation of a boby. The Atom is a boby that occupies " Space ", the Atom is not the making of " Space ". Everything that exists be it visible or invinsible requires first the exixtence of " SPACE " in order to exists. The Atom with its molecular structures and the space within it has nothing to do with the greater structure which is " SPACE ". This concept seems difficult to comprehend cause many want to fit their theories within creation, that is to say that " Space and everything else came to being at the same point, as given by the BBT. This theory is a creation theory minus the working of an intelligent mind. The Atom is a basis fundamental structure which is being exploited to explained the existence of another phenomenom -- Dark-Energy as being a waste product of the Atom. The opposite may be more sound, so I will say that the Atom is a waste product of Dark-Energy and or also Dark-Matter. The system does not work backwark that is to say first we get Space with nothing in it then somehow something emerges from Space itself from which the first particle or formed of Atom or quartz came to be. After this came the formation of Dark-Energy / Dark-Matter which didn't fully developed and was left behing while others heavier matter developed. Thus we moved forward in the development of systems which compliment each other through bombs and as they collided at a great speed and creating other matters. This created the weak and the strong elements while the Dark-Energy along with Dark-Matter stayed in their respctive places like an adhisive between the fabric of Space and all other heavier matters. The system is still moving forward and creating other elements by the collisions of Galaxies and other phenomenom. Just a we are trying to create or assimilate the collisions of particles which in turn will bring about a new element. All these efforts are moving forward not backward, it will be impossible for " SPACE " to moved backward, systems formed and systems die out. Gravity also plays a major role and like Dark-Energy it came into existent as part of the Fabric of Space but not a first, like saying or asking -- " can something exist outside of Gravity ? " . The answer is yes, Space has no mass and no density and therefore is not influence by Gravity but gravity cannot exist without Space.
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AnonymousRex
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http://www.unc.edu/depts/wcweb/handouts/paragraphs.html Please.
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AnonymousRex:
http://www.unc.edu/depts/wcweb/handouts/paragraphs.html
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Thankyou for the link AnonymousRex. Excellent information, which I greatly enjoyed. And definately a recommended read for all.
Cheers.
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