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what is a blackhole?
Last post 07-27-2008 11:38 PM by juvenilealchemist. 68 replies.
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  • 07-08-2008 03:54 AM In reply to

    Re: what is a blackhole?

     From what I have gleaned, the same as a black hole with a few subtle differences.

  • 07-08-2008 08:35 AM In reply to

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    juvenilealchemist : As of now , a white hole has not been decreed. We assume it to be an object that does reinstate matter or energy back into the functional aspect of the Universe, possibly in a manner we can easly over look.

  • 07-08-2008 10:21 PM In reply to

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    ....can you please state those differences?,... thanks

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  • 07-08-2008 10:23 PM In reply to

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    ... so they really are complicated... are they dangerous?...

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  • 07-12-2008 05:24 PM In reply to

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    juvenilealchemist : This is simply my opinion; Dangerous, not really, complicated yes, but the manner white holes are displayed in the Universe, will eventually be understood, when the full concept of black holes is understood.

  • 07-13-2008 08:48 PM In reply to

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    ....  can you please explain to me further their existence?....

    and can i ask you a simple favor? 

     

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  • 07-14-2008 12:15 AM In reply to

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    Why is speculation concerning the actual properties of a black hole not ever discussed?

  • 07-14-2008 06:53 AM In reply to

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    It has been discussed here in several threads. Use the Search box to find some of them if you're interested, or start it again here.

    While few of us have the math skills to go very far in that direction, it hasn't stopped us from philosophizing along those lines ...

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  • 07-14-2008 08:55 PM In reply to

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    ...is there a black hole specialist?.... you know the who's expertise is concentrated to black holes alone...?
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  • 07-14-2008 09:12 PM In reply to

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    There are several people active in this field of research.

    Those whose books I've read and can recommend include:

    • Kip Thorne (read Black Holes & Time Warps: Einstein's outrageous legacy). More readable than those listed below.
    • Stephen Hawking.
    • Roger Penrose.
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  • 07-15-2008 07:46 PM In reply to

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    thank you for those references.. how about white holes.. does those black hole specialist study white holes too?......
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  • 07-16-2008 07:05 AM In reply to

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    juvenilechemist - I just wanted to point out a quick reference to the study of our own galactic center, of our Milky Way, where there is a team of astronomers, headed by Dr. Andrea Ghez (UCLA), that is studying the activity of seven different orbiting stars, orbiting the black hole in the center of our own galaxy.  The distance to this "galactic center", is about 43,000 light years.  Our galaxy is about 86 to 90,000 light years across. 

    The galactic center group, which you can look up on yahoo, or any other search engine, uses a method called "adaptive optics", which enables our ground-based telescopes, here on earth, to compensate for our atmospheric distortion, of light that is received for photography. 

    By using adaptive optics, Dr. Ghez was able to photograph, and coordinate the movement of these seven orbiting stars, and to see their actual velocities speed up, EXTREMELY fast, when encountering their nearest orbit to our galaxies' black hole, named "Sagittarius A". 

    These seven stars, photographed over the time period of several years, are seen as their velocities change DRAMATICALLY, based on their proximity to their orbit of Sag.A.  I believe that their velocity approached somewhere close to .05, or 0.5 percent of the speed of light - that is FAST, for a moving star, or ANY other celestial object, for that matter!

    You can view the velocities of these orbiting stars, that Dr. Ghez has photgraphed, just to give you an idea of how something as massive as a black hole, would actually WHIP stars around, instead of swallowing them hole. 

    The first time I viewed this phenomena, back in 2006, I was simply AMAZED by the shocking beauty, and pure velocity, that celestial bodies could actually assume, in the universe. 

    But don't take MY word for it - go check it out yourself, on Yahoo! - Best wishes - drewfuss21

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  • 07-17-2008 01:20 AM In reply to

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    thanks for that information...now the issue about black holes seem to be getting more and more complicated.......aaahhhh...hooh....are these stars just the ordinary ones you know the small ones?.... so it's like the speed of the stars is being affected by the black hole? 

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  • 07-17-2008 03:59 AM In reply to

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    haha, yeah, the more you seem to find out about something in the universe? - the more complicated it gets! - HA!

    I'm not really sure about the mass of these seven orbiting stars.  They could be the size of our Sun, could be bigger... I'm not really sure. 

    I don't know if there is any actual way to measure the diameter of these stars, from such a large enormous distance, of 43,000 light years. 

    But YES! - the speed of these stars, orbiting the black hole (they're NOT sucked in...), they are WHIPPED around, at enormous velocities, upon close proximity to the Central Black Hole.  I think that the velocities of these stars comes somewhere to 0.5, to 5.0 percent, of the speed of light?  You might want to email Dr. Andrea Ghez, and her team, about that question. 

    I'm just a total layman.  Sitting here on disability, have mutliple sclerosis, color-blind, can't drive anymore, stuff like that... so, I cant' really get out and see anything for myself, because my eyesight, and optic nerves have been drastically given a blow, by MS. 

    But I wish you the best of luck on one of my FAVE subjects EVER! - Black Holes!  - Cheers! -drew

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  • 07-18-2008 06:50 PM In reply to

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    haha you're right the more you get to know about a thing the more it gets complicated haha.....but it also gets more and more exciting and educational....

    hey you shouldn't self-pity disability is not a hindrance for you to achieve your dreams... 

    you can do it .../we are here to support you .../..by the way i don't kno dr. ghez's e-mail ad..

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  • 07-18-2008 06:58 PM In reply to

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    haha - no self-pity here - just wish I could still SEE the stars, that's all...

     Best of everything!  - Cheers! -drew =)

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  • 07-18-2008 07:27 PM In reply to

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    oh, I forgot - you'll need to look up "Galactic Center Group", on yahoo or any other search engine; or you could look at UCLA's search-site, look for "Dr. Andrea Ghez" - she is the chair of the department of astronomy/astrophysics, you can also look for the galactic center group, there - best of luck! -drew

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  • 07-18-2008 08:17 PM In reply to

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    of course you could still see them hahaha.... specially now with all the gadgets the advance technology brought it is very possible for you to see the beauty of the stars just don't lose hope.....keep on believing..

    take care always.... 

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  • 07-18-2008 08:20 PM In reply to

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    thanks haha.. It seems that you know Dr. Ghez very well haha....

    by the way may I ask you a personal question? 

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  • 07-19-2008 09:52 AM In reply to

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    Actually, I've never met Dr. Ghez - I've just followed her studies a lot, on the internet, and from watching shows like "The Universe", on the history channel. 

    She seems pretty brilliant, with this whole adaptive-optics thing!

    Personal question? - yeah, sure, but private message me that, if it's going to be personal, in nature.  Thanks! - Cheers! -drew =P

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