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Last post 05-31-2008 08:57 PM by ngc2438. 19 replies.
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  • 03-01-2008 03:57 PM

    • mr Q
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    If You Could rename the Sun...

    What would you choose for a name for this important facet of all(?) life on Earth? The name Sun seems so insignificant for such an important part of our lives. I tried to come up with something but ended up with a blank. How about you?  Mr Q 

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  • 03-01-2008 04:12 PM In reply to

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    Sol?

    I dunno ... it's had different names in different cultures ...

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  • 03-01-2008 11:36 PM In reply to

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     I like the Cheyenne word "Ese'he", but, Sun will have to do

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  • 03-23-2008 03:59 PM In reply to

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    Re: If You Could rename the Sun...

    "some solly day" just doesn't sound right to me. The problem with "sun" is that it puns with "son". Yet it is good that something so important to our lives is known by a mono-syllabic word. Frankly, even if I could dream up the absolutely right word no-one would want to change now !
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  • 03-25-2008 05:42 AM In reply to

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    In sticking with the ancients, a name from the past would be proper. I like "Helios". An old Greek name for the Sun. It seems quite fitting if you read the definition. We are on Earth in the Helio system. Don't sound to bad either.

     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios

  • 03-25-2008 06:02 AM In reply to

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  • 03-25-2008 02:03 PM In reply to

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    I prefer Helios too but since all the planets, except Uranus, have Roman names I suppose Sol is only fitting.

    Dave Mitsky

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  • 03-25-2008 03:05 PM In reply to

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    Relatively speaking, our Sun might already have a name from other planets (that is assuming life has evolved to the point where they name the stars), maybe we are part of Orion or Ursa Major (ha ha).

    I like Dave though.....How about Alpha Helios Dave Sol

    Fun topic!

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  • 03-26-2008 03:02 PM In reply to

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    Something Usurping Night, or its acronym:  SUN

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  • 03-26-2008 05:46 PM In reply to

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     Ra would be the best name for the Sun. The Sun was worshipped by humans as the greatest of all Gods longer than any other God. Without it we are all doomed and if we exist long enough we will be doomed with it. All praise the great Sun God Ra. It was good enough for all our ancestors, it's good enough for me.

     

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  • 04-06-2008 08:42 AM In reply to

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    whats the sun?  you mean that strange orange/yellow ball that comes out once a week?

    i thought it was a dragon?

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  • 04-06-2008 11:04 AM In reply to

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    I lived in Dayton for 4 years.  The first January I was there, I got a new calendar and drew a Sun smiley face on the calendar everytime I saw the Sun.  At the end of the month I had 6.....

    I live in Tucson now and have to wear sun glasses almost EVERY time I go out side.  BUT Ohio is go GREEN Tucson is so BROWN....always trade offs....

    Here's to seeing the Dragon today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • 04-06-2008 06:13 PM In reply to

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     SirZeusor - I spent my last 60 years putting up with rain,snow and clouds back east in MA and after moving out here to NM, all I have to put up with is nearly constant wind and blowing dust. They still hamper my observing but like they say, "You can run but you can't hide" . But when it's nice out, man, the skies are dark and clear. What I can see out here with a full Moon out is what I could see back east without a Moon. Hoping your skies clear real soon Mr Q

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  • 04-19-2008 02:23 AM In reply to

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    ClubMan... DAVE?!? I guess that wouldn't be so bad. I could look forward to some nice looking lady at the beach saying "that's one hot Dave". A not so nice comment would be "I got burned by Dave". I've always liked the line "Dave's not here!". FLAMER wouldn't be so bad... but then you got the double meaning again. Dave
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  • 05-07-2008 09:39 PM In reply to

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    Re: If You Could rename the Sun...

    Azathoth 

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  • 05-08-2008 04:33 PM In reply to

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     All right, I'll bite - Why Azathoth?  Mr Q

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  • 05-08-2008 08:36 PM In reply to

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    Azathoth was a name used in H.P. Lovecraft novels (macabre...totally blows away Steven King). Azathoth was an entity (a living star?) located at the "center of the universe". One encounter with this being (thing?) would cause permanent madness.

    I guess when you think about it, if mankind knew all the secrets of the universe, there would be no further quest for knowledge. We would have achieved the pinnacle of knowledge. (aka End of the road).Knwoing there was nothing left to learn. Everything from here on would be a repeat of what you already learned...

    Quite maddening when you think about it.

    ...also...to be at the exact pinpoint center of the whole expanding universe. All 43 billion light years of (observable) universe. There you are at the epicenter of the big bang. There's no black hole, no quasar, no supernova remnant, just a small amorphous star...

    Finally, this reference from Wikpedia on the name...

     

    "Aside from the title of the novel fragment, The Dream-Quest was the first fiction by Lovecraft to mention Azathoth:

    [O]utside the ordered universe [is] that amorphous blight of nethermost confusion which blasphemes and bubbles at the center of all infinity—the boundless daemon sultan Azathoth, whose name no lips dare speak aloud, and who gnaws hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time and space amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin monotonous whine of accursed flutes.[9]

    Lovecraft referred to Azathoth again in "The Whisperer in Darkness" (1931), where the narrator relates that he "started with loathing when told of the monstrous nuclear chaos beyond angled space which the Necronomicon had mercifully cloaked under the name of Azathoth."[10] Here "nuclear" most likely refers to Azathoth's central location at the nucleus of the cosmos and not to nuclear energy, which did not truly come of age until after Lovecraft's death.[citation needed]

     

    Back to your original question of "Why?". Mankind has gazed up at the heavens for thousands of years. I am answering this question with the mindset that I would be a human alive thousands of years ago in an ancient civilization (maybe Egypt, maybe Mesopotamia, maybe Babylon....whatever). Maybe I would be a neanderthal. I have no doubt that the most powerful thing ever gazed upon would have been the sun. The ancients had no idea what the sun was. If they were to name it, I think it would be of a demon god or something vengeful...something they would sacrafice tribe members to. Hence, a demon name such as this sounds somewhat appropriate.

    Wouldn't you agree?
     

     


     

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  • 05-31-2008 07:16 AM In reply to

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    In Thailand we call the sun "Duang Athit". Literally translated it means " Week-Star". Unfortunaely I have no clue why they call it that.  Probably because it appears only once a week during rainy season....

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  • 05-31-2008 12:12 PM In reply to

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     ngc238 - Now you got me wondering. Could the phrase be a fairly modern one or ancient? Perhaps someone out here can come up with the answer. Mr Q

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  • 05-31-2008 08:57 PM In reply to

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    mr Q:

     ngc238 - Now you got me wondering. Could the phrase be a fairly modern one or ancient?  Mr Q

    mrQ,

    I'll try to find some educated Thai to get a better explanation. So far I can give you (and some interested folks) the following info:

    "Athit" has several meanings in Thai language when connected with other words. "Athit" alone would mean week. But, there is also a second word for week which is used only in very polite written language - sabataa. In connection with either "Duang" (= star-like or heavenly body) or "Phra" (= god, monk) it means sun (Duang Athit or Phra Athit). In connection with "wan" (=day) it means Sunday (Wan Athit). The Thais have, though, another slang-word for Sun - "daet". Fact is, you cannot connect "daet" with "wan" to make it mean Sunday... "daet" is not quite used in written language and it stands alone as the slang-word.

    I am sure, there is very ancient language connections (probably with Sanskrit origin from India). There are two striking similarities to other old languages in those Thai words for week: Athit and Athos (Greek penisula resevered for monks in ancient times) and sabataa and the Jewish Sabath. Many ancient words in Thai language come from ancient India. And some words can be connected to todays words of the "Indo-German" language group.

    Well, now there it is where my knowledge so far ends.

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