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Extinction Level Event Investigation & Planet X
Last post 04-05-2008 04:19 PM by Kodack. 44 replies.
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01-07-2008 11:26 PM
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nibiru2012
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Extinction Level Event Investigation & Planet X
This one I cannot explain, so I have gone out and found as many credible
sources on the subject as I could. They are all cited for you below and point
to a rather scary and frightening event involving unexplained planetary perturbations.
I do not know what to make of this so retyped information for you review and
comments.
Is this true? Research Quotes (Also see the disclosure project)
NASA Press Release 1992
"Unexplained deviations in the orbits of Uranus and Neptune point to a large
outer solar system body of 4 to 8 Earth masses, on a highly tilted orbit, beyond
7 billion miles from the sun." From www.Yowusa.com
"John Maynard, a former CIA agent who provided Yowusa with technical advice
during our early days, said it (The IRAS Telescope) was not shut down. He told Yowusa that IRAS was
shut down to the public only, but imaging went on, specifically the imaging of
one object they had found."
Gerry Neugebauer said:
"A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet
Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar
system has been found in the direction of the constellation Orion by an orbiting
telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite.... ‘All I can tell
you is that we don’t know what it is,’ said Gerry Neugebauer, chief IRAS
scientist."
Washington Post News Story Citations.
http://spider.ipac.caltech.edu/staff...
Washington Post ... 31-Dec-1983
Mystery Heavenly Body Discovered, a
front page story
A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so
close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the
direction of the constellation Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S.
infrared astronomical satellite. So mysterious is the object that astronomers do
not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a nearby "protostar" that never got
hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that it is still in the
process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of
the light cast by its stars ever gets through. "All I can tell you is that we
don't know what it is," Dr. Gerry Neugebauer, IRAS chief scientist for
California's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and director of the Palomar Observatory
for the California Institute of Technology said in an interview.
The most fascinating explanation of this mystery body, which is so cold it
casts no light and has never been seen by optical telescopes on Earth or in
space, is that it is a giant gaseous planet, as large as Jupiter and as close to
Earth as 50 billion miles. While that may seem like a great distance in
earthbound terms, it is a stone's throw in cosmological terms, so close in fact
that it would be the nearest heavenly body to Earth beyond the outermost planet
Pluto. "If it is really that close, it would be a part of our solar system,"
said Dr. James Houck of Cornell University's Center for Radio Physics and Space
Research and a member of the IRAS science team. "If it is that close, I don't
know how the world's planetary scientists would even begin to classify it."
The mystery body was seen twice by the infrared satellite as it scanned the
northern sky from last January to November, when the satellite ran out of the
supercold helium that allowed its telescope to see the coldest bodies in the
heavens. The second observation took place six months after the first and
suggested the mystery body had not moved from its spot in the sky near the
western edge of the constellation Orion in that time. "This suggests it's not a
comet because a comet would not be as large as the one we've observed and a
comet would probably have moved," Houck said. "A planet may have moved if it
were as close as 50 billion miles but it could still be a more distant planet
and not have moved in six months time.
Whatever it is, Houck said, the mystery body is so cold its temperature is no
more than 40 degrees above "absolute" zero, which is 459 degrees Fahrenheit
below zero. The telescope aboard IRAS is cooled so low and is so sensitive it
can "see" objects in the heavens that are only 20 degrees above absolute zero.
When IRAS scientists first saw the mystery body and calculated that it could be
as close as 50 billion miles, there was some speculation that it might be moving
toward Earth. "It's not incoming mail," Cal Tech's Neugebauer said. "I want to
douse that idea with as much cold water as I can."
Article also at http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/twor... and to T. Chester
looks like the authentic article as originally published.
January 4, 2008 9:04 PM
Personally Called.
NYC Hayden Planetarium Confirmed Eris is not planet X. or the perturber. Obtained IRAS
observations from last known suspected positions of Planet X: (Have no way of checking these out as they require IR equipment)
RA 4.45962 Dec 12.44113 Sep 20, 2001
RA 4.45732 Dec 11.91793 Sep 30, 2001
RA 4.45732 Dec 11.91793 Oct 12, 2001
RA 4.45727 Dec 11.92167 Oct 23, 2001
RA 4.45725 Dec 11.94356 Oct 31, 2001
RA 4.45724 Dec 11.98742 Nov 15, 2001
RA 4.45719 Dec 12.10971 Nov 27, 2001
RA 4.45699 Dec 12.22168 Dec 8, 2001
Coordinates scheduled to be E-Mailed to the SPT and National Science
Foundation for verification against other sources.
A bit about the Doc.who led the IRAS pretty smart guy.
http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/...
Videos & References:
http://planetxforecast.com/videos/su...
More links: (May or may not be related)
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_X
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/es...
http://media.marshallmasters.com/
More Geological Clues
3600 Years ago. Recorded Volcanic Earth Disasters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santorini
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avellin...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_...
Recorded History 3600 Years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17th_ce...
also A colossal volcanic eruption at Mount Veniaminof, Alaska Also Mt. St. Helens has a recorded eruption about 3600 years ago as well.
Intensity is the largest ever recorded.
Apx 7000 Years ago. Recorded Volcanic Earth DisastersMore strange coincidences, Apx 7000 years ago the super
volcano known as the "Crater Lake" in Oregon gave off the explosion of its
lifetime creating the largest caldera known to man. Suspected Global Warming Connection
Global Warming is also occurring Now. Not 3600 years
ago. (my guess is Mount Veniaminof eruption blocked sun) again Apx. 7000 years ago. and
again 11,600 years ago. Ref. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071030092705.htm This demonstrates a possible warming pattern every 3600 years. Theory is that an orbital object, exactly as described
by the Bible, Ancient Sumarians and Dr. Z. Sitchin may be upon us again soon. It may
already be involved global warming. Can we get on this? There is enough here to justify more research from the smart folks here. Rocco (203) 647-0380
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chipdatajeffB
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Re: Extinction Level Event Investigation & Planet X
You have been had, as they say. Large parts of this are complete fabrication, and the tiny bits that are factual do not relate to actual observations of such a planet. This has been making the rounds of the Internet for years.
What is true is that numerous Kuiper Belt objects (roughly the size of Pluto, and smaller) have been discovered in the past decade. It doesn't take a CIA agent to learn about it. Furthermore, ‘All I can tell you is that we don’t know what it is,’ could legitimately appear in a great many "discovery" press releases.
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cyberpatzer
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Yes, astronomers have no problem spotting an object reportedly that big in the outer solar system. The other bit of online fun is that this "planet" underwent three 'course corrections' monitored by JPL or the Naval Observatory--implying it was a giant spaceship.
This was 1992.
There has been nothing since then.
Of course, this is due to the aliens' higly sophisticated cloaking device.
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nibiru2012
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I agree "we do not know what it is" I also know about the conspiracy theory thing, and this has enough press to say it is not a conspiracy. "Planet X" means we do not what it is, but evidence and mathematics show it, or some perturber to mathematically exist. The conspiracy theory ends with actual proof, and I think there is now, however small, enough.
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chipdatajeffB
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Re: Extinction Level Event Investigation & Planet X
There is no "it" -- the "evidence" points to many small solar system bodies in two different orbital envelopes (a smaller number in the Kuiper Belt, closer in, and a very much larger number in the Oort Cloud, very much further out). These regions are the source of comets. We are talking millions to billions of these objects, each smaller than a planet and the largest roughly the size of currently known KBOs.
A planet of Jupiter's mass within either region would be detectable.
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nibiru2012
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 chipdatajeffB:There is no "it" -- the "evidence" points to many small solar system bodies in two different orbital envelopes (a smaller number in the Kuiper Belt, closer in, and a very much larger number in the Oort Cloud, very much further out). These regions are the source of comets. We are talking millions to billions of these objects, each smaller than a planet and the largest roughly the size of currently known KBOs.
A planet of Jupiter's mass within either region would be detectable.
Did I not Mention: NASA's 1992 press release Washington posts 1983 story Again U.S. News and World Report's Story Both Chief Scientists of the IRAS telescope Mathematical & Scientific Computation of a large Perturbing object Extensive Historical Accounts from the Bible, the Egyptians, Sumarians, Inca, & Aztec's Aside from having this proof "as big as the moon" I am not sure what you mean there is no "it"?!
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johnjohnson
 - Joined on 07-07-2003
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Nibiru2012....."if" you have a telescope, I suggest you help all mankind and find this thing for the rest of us who can't seem to get our equipment to find "IT". I surely am not going to waste my time looking for "IT". There are real objects for me to view.
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chipdatajeffB
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nibiru2012:
chipdatajeffB:
There is no "it" -- the "evidence" points to many small solar system bodies in two different orbital envelopes (a smaller number in the Kuiper Belt, closer in, and a very much larger number in the Oort Cloud, very much further out). These regions are the source of comets. We are talking millions to billions of these objects, each smaller than a planet and the largest roughly the size of currently known KBOs.
A planet of Jupiter's mass within either region would be detectable.
Did I not Mention:
NASA's 1992 press release
These supposed orbital perturbations are not confirmed. Other perturbations have been explained by discoveries of KBOs and normal orbital resonances from existing, known bodies. No extraordinary explanation is required.
Washington posts 1983 story
I looked at the original article. It does not say this is a physical body within or near our Solar System. It quotes Neugebauer as having said that is merely one "possible" explanation. In their 1985 paper in the Journal of Astrophysics, Neugebauer, Houck, et al, attribute the IRAS discoveries to distant galaxies shrouded by dust and thus visible only in the infrared. End of issue.
Again U.S. News and World Report's Story
Not a "credible" scientific source. The scientists themselves are the credible source. A newsmagazine "checks" facts by talking to people. A scientist checks facts by having other scientists test the data. The scientists did that and found the answer. It is not a planet. It is not near our Solar System.
Both Chief Scientists of the IRAS telescope
... have said in a peer-reviewed, published scientific paper, this is not the mythical Planet X ...
Mathematical & Scientific Computation of a large Perturbing object
Cite it.
Extensive Historical Accounts from the Bible, the Egyptians, Sumarians, Inca, & Aztec's
... are not scientifically credible sources, sorry ...
Aside from having this proof "as big as the moon" I am not sure what you mean there is no "it"?!
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ChaosKnight
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niribu2012, why don't you just admit you're out to spread disinformation and panic.
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Tesla220
 - Joined on 12-12-2006
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This thing is going to preturb the orbit of Mars and send it into the orbital path of Earth!!! Get off the planet while there's still time!!!
Oh Please....
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Starwolf
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"IF" this giant planet X really exists, I really don't think it would be a "galaxy" as close as a few billion miles away. Galaxies are on a scale of thousands of light years (even the dwarf galaxies). How could this thing be a galaxy if it's close enough to be part of our own solar system. It sounds to me like a farce. If this spokesman of the IRAS knew anything about what he was talking about, I doubt he would state that.
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ChaosKnight
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Starwolf:
"IF" this giant planet X really exists, I really don't think it would be a "galaxy" as close as a few billion miles away. Galaxies are on a scale of thousands of light years (even the dwarf galaxies). How could this thing be a galaxy if it's close enough to be part of our own solar system.
It sounds to me like a farce. If this spokesman of the IRAS knew anything about what he was talking about, I doubt he would state that.
That's the problem with ignorant/dishonest guys like nibiru2012, isn't it? They don't know very much, yet they imagine they have some big truth / knowledge to share with the world.
The real story goes like this: the IRAS guys found some infrared sources which they couldn't attribute to anything known at that time. They openly said they didn't know what they were, and could be anything. The Planet X morons then immediately started shouting "Look! Evidence of Planet X!"
What these guys conveniently neglected to mention later, was that the IRAS scientists eventually pinned down the infrared sources, which turned out to be faint galaxies, not planets or brown dwarfs, and published their results in The Astrophysical Journal. The journal is accessible only to subscribers, but the article abstact is freely available here: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-bib_query?bibcode=1985ApJ...290L...5H&db_key=AST&high=3ccf23290006822
Also note the deceitful cover-up attempt by nibiru2012. niribu2012 provided a link to a page by Tom Chester, one of the scientist on the IRAS team. http://spider.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/tchester/iras/washington_post_mystery_object.html showing the Washington Post report in its entirety. This looks like a real Caltech page, and everyone knows Caltech is a respectable institute. nibiru2012 here attempts to portray Chester, a legitimate scientist, as endorsing the Washington Post report.
But what nibiru2012 conveniently neglects to mention, again, is that Chester had another page: http://spider.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/tchester/iras/no_tenth_planet_yet.html which Chester created to debunk the dipshits who are screwing and discrediting his good name.
These Planet X guys are running around twisting the words of respectable scientists who have done good work to deceive others.
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Starwolf
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Nice job! At least someone did their homework. Now I don't have to flee the planet. It's really kind of funny when you look at all those conspiracy theories out there. Is astronomy really so boring that people need to come up with these blatant lies? Here is a science that ponders the most fasinating and difficult questions humanity has ever perceived. Yet there is always tons of fabricated stories out there to purposely lead unwitting people astray. Hell, I'm still waiting for Mars to appear as large as the full moon from our perspective.
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nibiru2012
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nibiru2012
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What is going on with the Sun, Can anyone Explain these anomalies?
http://www.n3kl.org/sun/noaa.html
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Does this seem odd?
"Mega Flare: An unprecedented X-ray event has occurred (X-ray flux >= 1.00e-3 W/m^2)
The designation "Mega Flare" was chosen by Kevin Loch when the status monitor was created on March 4, 1999.
There is no "official" designation for flares in this range. " |
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nibiru2012
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Thank you guys for your excelent research.
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Centaur
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nibiru2012:
Thank you guys for your excelent research.
That was very nice of you to acknowledge those who have been helping you to see through the propaganda that has been spewed forth by those who pander to a gullible public. For awhile I thought you might be just another one of those with a woo agenda who cherry picks evidence. Now I know that you desire to be an honorable seeker of truth.
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ChaosKnight
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nibiru2012:
What is this new crap. You don't happen to own the website from the 1st link, do you? If yes, I'd say you are a conman. As for your 2nd link, you trying to pass of every new EXTRASOLAR planet as your Planet X? Is that plain stupidity or plain dishonesty?
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davidh
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Remember the words of the late great Carl Sagan: "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." I don't see any proof here, extraordinary or not.
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whispaz
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I have also been researching this Planet X theory and I must say that it is intriguing. What exactly is the purpose of the South Pole telescope if not to observe this body that was discovered years ago. Supposedly, the Vatican is also aware of this object and will be launching it's own telescope for further studies. Anyone have more info on the SPT?
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