National ignition Facility

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National ignition Facility
Posted by Bullfox on Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:47 PM

A report in the San Francisco Chronicle for 2-13-14 claims that the National Ignition Facility in Livermore, Ca recently produced a fusion reaction that yielded more energy than was put into the target.   Apparently however the experiment did not produce more energy than was consumed by the 192 laisers and associated equipment used to produce the reaction.

This result was also recently reported in Nature.  The energy output is apparently about two orders of magnitude short of the total energy input.

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Posted by Primordial on Thursday, February 13, 2014 5:15 PM

Buttfox : That's good, now work on efficiency.

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Posted by Primordial on Sunday, February 23, 2014 2:39 PM

Mr. Bullfox : Here is a link provided by Mr dnatech,

https://www.llnl.gov/news/aroundthelab/2014/Feb/NR-14-02-06.html#.UwWjIHu9KSO,

My first opinion of this article was, they appear to use cyrogenics to steady the target. It's hard to hit a moving target, plus you can use a narrower and more concentrated beam.  Just an observation.

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Posted by Bullfox on Monday, February 24, 2014 12:51 PM

Mr. Primordial,

Thanks for the link.  A long way to go before fusion is a viable energy source.  I wonder if it would be easier to do in zero gravity?

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Posted by Primordial on Monday, February 24, 2014 6:18 PM

Mr. Bullfox : I don't think that specific interaction would be effective, may be paramagnetic suspension, may help, or if it could be sync-controlled through a paramagnetic circuit, which could position the target at coinciodence. The problem with this would be all active control would be difficult with all that radiation, it might just have to be a passive method. Just an opinion.

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Posted by Primordial on Monday, March 10, 2014 9:44 AM

Mr. Bullfox : If you have a chance to look at April's issue of DISCOVER magazine, look on page18 an interesting article titled "How to make light matter" at first glance I said, what the heck. However after reading the article, it finally sunk into my reluctant brain. It appears to me they must be using a niobium crystal which takes a photon and divide it into 2 daughter wavefunctions which then enter through an appature ( the round version of the slit experiment ) together and emerge as entangled photons ( observed ) which are then introduced to rubidium ( A# 37 ) molecules under cryrogenic ref. in a low energy state. Just think about it.

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Posted by PeakOilBill on Monday, March 10, 2014 4:19 PM
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