Celestron VS Meade

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Celestron VS Meade
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:22 AM
Both manufacturers are great commercial telescopes builders. They had also some achromatic or apochromatic scopes but it's not the point making this topic.

I would like to ask you with the experience of using both brands.

In every telescope Celestron has lighter overall weight. Does this make it better or worst ? The materials of making tubes are better in Celestron or Meade?

Optics? Meade or Celestron?

Generally I'm looking forward after buying the NexStar 4GT for my first serious scope a new one. The apperture I'm interested is 8" I'm between NexStar 8i (I have confidence in Celestron after 4GT), and Meade LX90 8".

Please tell me your ideas and your suggestions. Do not propose other brands as I have difficulty in finding other brands in Greece.

Thanking you in advance for a quick reply to my demand :-) .

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Posted by jballauer on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:17 AM
This is an age-old question. At the end of the day, either scope will be a good choice.

I used to spend tons of time debating the differences and similarities of these scopes. But I've pretty much concluded that they perform quite equally in every way. For you, the choice should be made according to price and availability.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 11:08 AM
yes but when something is the same and one weights 10 and other 20 what should I think? the lighter is better cause is made from lighter materials or the heavier is better cause its made of durable materials?

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 4:11 PM
Weight is only important if you have to move he scope, if you don't mind carrying the extra weight don't use it as a serious factor for making a choice, as Jay says the scopes are fairly simialiar neither is more durable.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 11:13 PM
Lighter scopes can cool down a bit faster sometimes, I think. But yeah, it's really really really close.
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Posted by Altair4 on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 2:47 AM
Jay said it.

The scopes are equivalent, so go for price and availability.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 4:56 AM
Ok then . Thank you people!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 10:37 AM
If I were to get a Celestron SCT it would be the 9.25. If a Meade. 10 inch LX200

I have heard excellent things about the 9.25 Celestron

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 11:51 AM
I have a Celestron SCT 9.25 and I only have 1 complaint - not enough good clear sky time to use it! I haven't even been able to take it out for checking the comets because of cloudy weather and bad timing!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 4:23 PM
I asked this same question a while back, and they really are the same. As for which to get, neither!

They are fork mounted. Look at the 8" SCT in the advanced series Celestron has, its mounted on an EQ mount, and dont bother with GoTo. It saves you money if thats a problem. The EQ is sturdier, and if you want to do astrophotography, you wouldnt have to spend a few hundred $ on a wedge, like you would with the fork mounted scopes.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 10:22 PM
i agree with Z here, if your looking at the 8" model- get the EQ mounted
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 28, 2004 1:36 PM
I say that Meade is better because they are made in US. I am starting to dislike lateley. I have a Tasco Starguide 4 telescope - an identical copy of your Nexstar 4 GT. Even thought our scopes are identical, Celestron refuses to commercially service my scope for some reason. I need a new corrector lens and internal flip mirror installed, but they say that they service no other brand in their facilitties but Celestron. Now I don't have any place to service my scope now that Tasco is out of business. Next scope I get will be a Meade or Orion, it will not be a Celestron.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 29, 2004 7:26 AM
Count Nicola do you think that Meade would fix your scope? No!.

Uncle Russ ;) Thank you for replying me. I have to tell you that my local dealer proposed me EQ mound 8" also but I dont like this build (I cannot observer easily). I have decided to end at Celestron Nexstar 8i. 2258euro final price. Ehr... my neighboors are only wild birds and the clear dark sky :) . ( I live in a mountain of Mykonos away from the city light pollution ).

Why is so difficult for astrophotography with fork scopes?
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 13, 2004 12:07 PM
I have a Meade model 2045 4" SCT and It had gotten out of alignment and I was having difficulity with it. Meade company was very happy to fix it for free and ship it back to me for free. This was a few years back but I still appreciate it. So i can only say nice things about Meade and their customer service.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 13, 2004 12:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Flashy
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Why is so difficult for astrophotography with fork scopes?


Vibration mainly. A fork mount does not directly support the weight of the OTA, but insted holds it from the sides, which allows the OTA to vibrate up and down - and in all but the highest end models (ie. non-Meade or Celestron heavy duty fork mounts) side to side vibration can also occur if the wind blows too much or the scope is even the least bit unbalanced.

A GEM mount of good quality is much more stable for photography. The CGE is a good example.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 13, 2004 12:40 PM
Why would you expect celestron to fix tasco junk? (well, most of it isnt good) They dont even know the other scopes, so i'd doubt they could fix it easily.

They want you to buy there stuff, not fix other companies things. Meade would be the same way.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 4:26 PM
GO WITH THE CELESTRON!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 6:02 PM
I'll go with the celestron soon... not the CGE though... Its not needed!
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Posted by starTour on Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:06 PM
im not stuck on the brand cause there both great. however i dont know what model to get. my budget is $1000. so my choices are... meade ETX-125PE or... celestron Nexstar 6se/ C6-SGT (both are the same price) the meade has a greater mag, 500x while the cele is only 354x. the meade ap is only 5in while the cele is a 6in ap. i will travel a bit with it. however im from nyc so i have a bit of light pollution. and i will be using it mostly around my home. people tell me its not the magnification, but the aperture thats the most important. well im having trouble deciding which one to get. any opinions?
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Posted by Belgrade on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 8:09 AM

Neither of the brands make their scopes in the U.S.  Meade has completely moved the production to Mexico last year (and now it's moving its HQ in Pasadena to a cheaper location in town because serious financial problems) with some parts/accessories still made in P.R. of China and Taiwan and Celestron makes its stuff in P.R. of China.

 

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Posted by tkerr on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:35 PM

I may be wrong, but even though Celestrons Parent company is now Synta, I beleive they are still making some of their own telescopes here in the US.  ie. their SCTs

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Posted by Belgrade on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:56 PM

I'm afraid you are. 

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Posted by DaveMitsky on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:57 PM

starTour
im not stuck on the brand cause there both great. however i dont know what model to get. my budget is $1000. so my choices are... meade ETX-125PE or... celestron Nexstar 6se/ C6-SGT (both are the same price) the meade has a greater mag, 500x while the cele is only 354x. the meade ap is only 5in while the cele is a 6in ap. i will travel a bit with it. however im from nyc so i have a bit of light pollution. and i will be using it mostly around my home. people tell me its not the magnification, but the aperture thats the most important. well im having trouble deciding which one to get. any opinions?

All things considered, there is no substitute for aperture. 

Optically, a Maksutov-Cassegrain telescope is superior to a typical Schmidt-Cassegrain.  On the other hand, the 6" SCT will provide a somewhat larger true field of view with a given eyepiece, due to its shorter focal length (1500mm versus 1900mm), as well as greater light grasp and resolution, due to its larger aperture.

However, you may want to weigh in Meade's current precarious financial status when making your decision.

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Posted by tkerr on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:42 PM

Belgrade

I'm afraid you are. 

Unless things have changed, Last I checked I'm not.
An affiliate of Synta, SW Technologies bought Celestron.  Celestron still maintains their operations in California. 

 According to Synta founder David Shen, Celestron will continue to be led by its senior management team, which has privately owned the company since purchasing it from the failing telescope giant Tasco in 2002. According to the press release, as a result of Synta's purchase "Celestron will . . . continue to lead the product engineering, development and manufacturing processes from the Torrance, California, headquarters. All product warranties will stay in effect and product support will not be interrupted or delayed. The company's first goal is to fill a three-month backlog of product orders and work to resume a full-scale production and product development operations." Shen added that he wanted to assure everyone that "Celestron's operations will remain in Torrance," and that he is "committed to maintaining Celestron's reputation of quality."

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Posted by tasco-60mm on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 3:12 PM

belgrade- whats your point?- this thread was from 5 years ago,  by todays standards it seems almost everything is from china or taiwan today

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Posted by tkerr on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 3:29 PM

tasco-60mm

belgrade- whats your point?- this thread was from 5 years ago,  by todays standards it seems almost everything is from china or taiwan today

I think he was just responding to "StarTour" Who is the one that resurected this thread.

Nonetheless,  Your right,  does seem like everything is made overseas these days. 

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Posted by Belgrade on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:24 AM

tker, thank you explaining "what was my point" to another poster, I really appreciate it.

By the way, I didn't reply to start an endless debate.  I replied to make it clear, regardless of our patriotic feelings and some people's honest and possibly well-founded believes that American-made gear was/is better than the Far East-produced, that Celestron does not make its highly-regarded, mass-produced, and competetively priced SCTs in Torrence, CA or any other U.S. location anymore.   

And yes, the astro-gear is by and large imported like most of the mass consumer goods these days.  There is more than one reason for it and we all know them.

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Posted by leo731 on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:46 AM

Belgrade
Celestron does not make its highly-regarded, mass-produced, and competetively priced SCTs in Torrence, CA or any other U.S. location anymore.   

  Celestron SCT OTA's are still made, assembled, and quality control tested in Torrance California. My 6" is one of them.

Synta's buying of Celestron actually has vastly improved the quality of their products over the days when Celestron belonged to the Tasco group.  In those days it was a Meade refractor I bought because they were made far better. 

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Posted by tkerr on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:59 PM

leo731

Belgrade
Celestron does not make its highly-regarded, mass-produced, and competetively priced SCTs in Torrence, CA or any other U.S. location anymore.   

  Celestron SCT OTA's are still made, assembled, and quality control tested in Torrance California. My 6" is one of them.

Synta's buying of Celestron actually has vastly improved the quality of their products over the days when Celestron belonged to the Tasco group.  In those days it was a Meade refractor I bought because they were made far better. 

L

As a matter of fact they have also expanded to include Skywatcher USA also in Torrance Ca.

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