Zhumell vs. Orion

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Zhumell vs. Orion
Posted by Orionis2009 on Monday, March 09, 2009 2:26 PM

Hi guys,

ok, so very soon i am going to upgrade my current 5in telescope to a 10 incher (right in time to view the sagittarius milky way in the summer) and i was wondering what brand to go with, since the prices are pretty much similar. Orion or Zhumell? what are the pros and cons of each brand? or are they the same thing, and all that there is to it is user preference?

thanks for all yer guyzez help

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Posted by chuck81 on Monday, March 09, 2009 2:30 PM

Orion and Zhumell are pretty much equal in optics.  There are some slight differnces in how the mount works. 

Zhumell might be the way to since they offer free shipping.  Orion doesn't.

 

Chuck

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Posted by zachsdad on Monday, March 09, 2009 2:31 PM

I have the 10" Orion and am very happy with it, but I've heard very good things about the Zhumell.  I believe the Zhumell comes with a two speed focuser which is a very nice feature and maybe a couple other accessories.  I think the optics and the structure are very comparable between the two scopes, so I'd let the accessories and shipping costs make up my mind.  But that's just my opinion.  Whichever one you get you will be getting a nice scope.

Good Luck. 

 

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Posted by Orionis2009 on Monday, March 09, 2009 2:49 PM

 shipping costs dont matter, cause the local planetarium carries both orion and zhumell telescopes.....ive seen them in person, the 8 incher is just as big as the 10 incher. the 10incher is just a bit "fatter"...thats what made my mind to go with the 10 incher......and besides, the orion xt10 intelliscope looks so *** good!Cool love the golden plated color!

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Posted by Orionis2009 on Monday, March 09, 2009 2:50 PM

 also, what is a dual speed focuser? oh and zhumell claims that their mirrors have a 92 to 94% reflectivity....what about orion's?

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Posted by zachsdad on Monday, March 09, 2009 3:05 PM

I can't say with 100% certainty, but I've heard that the Orion mirrors are 86% to 89% which is a standard coating.  A dual speed focuser has an extra, fine focus, knob which moves the focuser at only 10% (in a 10 to 1 focuser, some have different ratios) of the speed of the main focus knob.  This makes it easier to get good focus at high power.

The Zhumell don't have the Intellescope push-to system availible.

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Posted by Orionis2009 on Monday, March 09, 2009 3:26 PM

 intelliscope dosnt matter much to me.....so, how much bigget is the z12 compared to the z10....ive only seen 10in models in person

 

the dua speed focusor sounds like a cool addition

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Posted by zachsdad on Monday, March 09, 2009 3:40 PM

I've never seen a Z12, but I would guess the difference is the same as in the Orion 10" to 12".

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Posted by Orionis2009 on Monday, March 09, 2009 3:47 PM

 i think i'll stick with the 10 incher....i dont want a telescope to be a burden, getting to a dark site already is

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Posted by craterdavy on Monday, March 09, 2009 8:03 PM

hello,.,i have an 8"zhumell and what i like about it is that the tube sits in the base in u-shaped cut outs.,,so you can lift it out of the base and carry it separate from the base,.,i don't know if you can do this with the orion dobs .,.,or if they are more fixed together once assembled.,.,i would not want to have to lug a 10" er to far in one piece,.,,.they may not seem to heavy ,.but i feel that they are "awkward".,.",spellcheck".,.,and prone to bumping.,,O+O

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Posted by chuck81 on Monday, March 09, 2009 9:33 PM

hello,.,i have an 8"zhumell and what i like about it is that the tube sits in the base in u-shaped cut outs.,,so you can lift it out of the base and carry it separate from the base,.,i don't know if you can do this with the orion dobs .,.,or if they are more fixed together once assembled

I'm not sure about the intelliscope, but with the Orion classic dob scopes, just release two springs and the OTA seperates from the base.

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Posted by Taha Siddiqui on Monday, March 09, 2009 10:59 PM

If I am going out for a star party or any place away from home, I'd disassemble my scope (Orion XT8 Classic) which is great. However, another good factor about these scopes is that they arn't too heavy either, so you can lift them fully assembled which is very conveneant if you observe in your backyard or what not.

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Posted by Orionis2009 on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:26 AM

 whats the difference between the zhumell original and zhumell deluxe?

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Posted by Orionis2009 on Saturday, May 16, 2009 6:39 PM

 so?

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Posted by craterdavy on Sunday, May 17, 2009 12:10 PM

I think the difference is the accessories that they give with the scope now.,.,.or perhaps the bearing system and the alt. ajustment knobs,.,they have recently made these changes to the scope so that maybe where the "deluxe" comes from,.,,just a guess though,..,the zhumell I have is very nice.,.,.,look in the polls forum,.",who has a dob" maybe can help make up your mind,.,.good luck,.,i'm sure either one will be good,..,O+O

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Posted by ajohnson on Sunday, May 17, 2009 5:03 PM

Just be sure you don't get hit wth aperture fever if you don't get the 12" :p

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Posted by Orionis2009 on Monday, May 18, 2009 12:35 AM

 i am set on getting a 12 incher, as that is the largest telescope i can afford/handle right now.

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