Higher than 50mm aperture handheld binoculars

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Higher than 50mm aperture handheld binoculars
Posted by SWA Pilot on Sunday, January 05, 2014 9:59 AM

  I would like to get a pair of handheld binoculars with more light grasp than my 10x50s have.   I am wondering if anyone might have some suggestions?  Thank you in advance for the help.

Well boys, we got three engines out, we got more holes in us than a horse trader's mule, the radio is gone and we're leaking fuel and if we was flying any lower why we'd need sleigh bells on this thing...

 

Canon 10x30mm Image Stabilized, Celestron Cavalry 15x70mm, Oberwerk BT70, Oberwerk 25x100mm Deluxe, and Steiner 10x50mm binoculars

Celestron AstroMaster 114 EQ telescope

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Posted by Antitax on Sunday, January 05, 2014 11:21 AM

   The 15x70's are kinda standard. Pretty much any brand and model will do, provided it is waterproof (safer to use in cold and/or humid weather, but best of all, I simply shower my binocs to clean them). I think all 15x70's have higher transparency BaK-4 prisms and full multicoatings, and many have the same optics under different brands. If they're in the same price bracket, they're probably clones.

   However some are quite heavy, like the Orion Resolux. Check the specs carefully to avoid dealing with shoulder fatigue. 12x60 or 15x60 binoculars don't show much more than 10x50's and 12x50's unless they're in the very top-end where contrast and sharpness are outstanding, but then you will pay more than for a good mid-price 70mm.

   Clusters that appear barely there in my 10x50's are more much peppery in my 16x70, and the latest Celestron Skymaster gave very nearly the same view, without the battleproof armoring, though. Celestron's most recent 15x70 is the $160 Cavalry, said to be very good (a friend bought it but I have not tried it yet) but earlier models lost alignment when bumped hard.

   I don't know if Celestron solved that little problem. If they have I might sell my Fujinon, buy the Cavalry, and put the spare cash in eyepieces. But only if I'm sure, word from the forums will decide that.

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Posted by DaveMitsky on Sunday, January 05, 2014 12:19 PM

How much do you want to spend?

If price is no object, I'd say that the Fujinon 16x70 FMT-SX is probably the best choice.  

http://www.company7.com/fujinon/binocs/1670fmtsx.html

Dave Mitsky

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Posted by SWA Pilot on Sunday, January 05, 2014 12:47 PM

Thanks to all for the inputs.  I guess my concern with the higher magnifications is keeping them still when they are handheld.  Can 15 and 16 times magnification be held steady in ones hands or is a tripod needed to get steady views?  I know some people say 10x is the max for handheld, others say 12 or even 15.

Well boys, we got three engines out, we got more holes in us than a horse trader's mule, the radio is gone and we're leaking fuel and if we was flying any lower why we'd need sleigh bells on this thing...

 

Canon 10x30mm Image Stabilized, Celestron Cavalry 15x70mm, Oberwerk BT70, Oberwerk 25x100mm Deluxe, and Steiner 10x50mm binoculars

Celestron AstroMaster 114 EQ telescope

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Posted by DaveMitsky on Sunday, January 05, 2014 1:17 PM

It depends upon your stamina, the weight of the binocular, whether or not you are seated (a lounge chair is ideal), and what you are observing.  I own a number of binoculars, including 15x70 and 20x80 models.  I can hand-hold the 15x70s for a fair amount of time for casual DSO observing. OTOH, I have a hard time resolving Jupiter's Galilean satellites through 10x50 binoculars, if I can't support them in some way.

If I'm going to be doing serious binocular observing with my giant binoculars, I use a parallelogram binocular mount (guider) and a Bogen video tripod.

Dave Mitsky 

Sic itur ad astra!

Chance favors the prepared mind.

A man is a small thing, and the night is very large and full of wonders.

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Posted by SWA Pilot on Sunday, January 05, 2014 1:41 PM

Thanks. I really appreciate the help.  I am seated most of the time when I am using the binoculars.  Since I am new to this I might give the Celestron's a try.  I will save the Fujinon's for a date when my abilities allow me to justify the price.

Well boys, we got three engines out, we got more holes in us than a horse trader's mule, the radio is gone and we're leaking fuel and if we was flying any lower why we'd need sleigh bells on this thing...

 

Canon 10x30mm Image Stabilized, Celestron Cavalry 15x70mm, Oberwerk BT70, Oberwerk 25x100mm Deluxe, and Steiner 10x50mm binoculars

Celestron AstroMaster 114 EQ telescope

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Posted by Poppa Chris on Sunday, January 05, 2014 6:54 PM

I have the 15x70 Celestron Skymasters and can handhold them pretty steadily unless the target is very high overhead.  Then it is more of an issue of neck strain than binocular weight.

---Poppa Chris---

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Posted by Genesis 1:1 on Sunday, January 05, 2014 11:25 PM

SWA,

If you are interested in a "better quality" line of binoculars, you might want to start here:

http://www.bigbinoculars.com/70mm-90mm.htm 

Nikon7x35GoldSentinel 9.3*+Pentax8x40PCFWPII+MinoxBD10x44BP

FujinonFMTRSX7x50+Nikon10x50GoldSentinel+Pentax12x50PCFWPII

Vixen8x56Geoma+Fujinon12x60HB+Pentax16x60PCFWP

Pentax20x60PCFWP+Pentax20x60PCFWPII+Tento20x60USSR

Orion12x63MiniGiant+Spectrum I 20x65+Orion15x70LittleGiant II

Orion20x70LittleGiant II+Orion16x80Giant+Orion30x80MEGAView

Barska30x80X-Trail+BurgessOptical20x90Series II

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Posted by Orion Aperture on Monday, January 06, 2014 10:15 PM

Hello Everyone,

I am new to the group. My wife and I have been into Astronomy for 10 years now.

It looks like everyone had passed on some good size, type of binoculars, etc. . . . for SWA Pilot to purchase for a handheld pair.  I would suggest the either the Celestsron 12x60's or at the most as far as weight would be the Celestsron 15x70's.

 

 

 Scopes: Celestron 6" 150mm F/8 Achromat, Orion Atlas EQ-G mount.

Orion 120mm ST F/5 Achromat, Orion Sky View Pro EQ mount. Stellarvue 80mm ED Nighthawk Next Generation Deluxe. 

Celestron 6" 150mm F/10 Cassegrain

Bino's: Orion 30x80 Mega-View, Orion 15x70, 10x50 Resolux, Orion 10x42 Shore View, Celestron 15x70 and 12x60.

 

 

 

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Posted by SWA Pilot on Tuesday, January 07, 2014 4:15 PM

I would really like to thank everyone for their inputs.  I decided to go with the Celestron 15x70s.  I will let you know how they work.

Well boys, we got three engines out, we got more holes in us than a horse trader's mule, the radio is gone and we're leaking fuel and if we was flying any lower why we'd need sleigh bells on this thing...

 

Canon 10x30mm Image Stabilized, Celestron Cavalry 15x70mm, Oberwerk BT70, Oberwerk 25x100mm Deluxe, and Steiner 10x50mm binoculars

Celestron AstroMaster 114 EQ telescope

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Posted by leo731 on Tuesday, January 07, 2014 4:39 PM

I think you will be happy with the Celestron.  I have a smaller pair that are very nice and provide good views. 

I am sure you are younger and stronger than I but I cannot even hold a 10x50 pair very long.  Dave has the best advice that sitting down and supporting ones arms on the armrests will greatly extend your comfort and ability to hold the binoculars steady. 

Clear Skies,

L

A nebula in the eyepiece is worth two in the Atlas.

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