Pixinsight?

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Pixinsight?
Posted by Poppa Chris on Friday, October 04, 2013 8:58 AM

Does anybody here either use or have experience with Pixinsight?  Especially when used with one-shot color DSLR images rather than LRGB images through seperate filters?

I've been thinking a lot about trying it out it lately as I've stumbled accross a coule of Youtube videos on it and found it to be very intriguing.  But all of them seem to be centered around LRGB with monochrome CCD imagers.  I'm not ready to give up my Canon DSLR. 

---Poppa Chris---

Denham Springs, Louisiana USA

"Second star to the right - Then straight on until morning!" - Peter Pan

Celestron CPC1100GPS (XLT) - 279mm aperature, 2800mm Focal length. (f10) Celestron Ultima LX (70deg AFOV) Eyepieces 32mm thru 5mm, Canon EOS Rebel T2i DSLR, Backyard EOS imaging software, Orion Star Shoot Planetary Imager IV, Celestron Skymaster 15x70 binoculars

 

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Posted by chipdatajeffB on Friday, October 04, 2013 8:47 PM

I know someone I think can help. If you'll pm me an email address, I'll put him in touch.

Also, another observing buddy John Bozeman has some excellent tutorials. He has done LRGB, Hubble Narrowband, and DSLR imaging and processing with PixInsight.

 

Jeff

The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it's stranger than we CAN imagine. --- JBS Haldane

Come visit me at Comanche Springs Astronomy Campus (we're on Google Maps) in Texas.

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Posted by Poppa Chris on Saturday, October 05, 2013 7:41 AM

Thanks, Jeff.  Will do.

---Poppa Chris---

Denham Springs, Louisiana USA

"Second star to the right - Then straight on until morning!" - Peter Pan

Celestron CPC1100GPS (XLT) - 279mm aperature, 2800mm Focal length. (f10) Celestron Ultima LX (70deg AFOV) Eyepieces 32mm thru 5mm, Canon EOS Rebel T2i DSLR, Backyard EOS imaging software, Orion Star Shoot Planetary Imager IV, Celestron Skymaster 15x70 binoculars

 

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Posted by Poppa Chris on Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:47 PM

I've just spent a couple of hours viewing 15 videos on Pixinsight.

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http://www.youtube.com/user/harrysastroshed/videos

 

The more I see of this software the more I think I'm going to give it a try.  It seems to be both a good bit different in its graphic user interface and workflow  from the usual DSS/Photoshop and more powerful to boot.  If you take the time to understand the workflow the results look both amazing and pretty easy to do.

 

If you do watch some or all of them, I'd love some comments.

---Poppa Chris---

Denham Springs, Louisiana USA

"Second star to the right - Then straight on until morning!" - Peter Pan

Celestron CPC1100GPS (XLT) - 279mm aperature, 2800mm Focal length. (f10) Celestron Ultima LX (70deg AFOV) Eyepieces 32mm thru 5mm, Canon EOS Rebel T2i DSLR, Backyard EOS imaging software, Orion Star Shoot Planetary Imager IV, Celestron Skymaster 15x70 binoculars

 

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Posted by chipdatajeffB on Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:07 PM

Two of my buddies use both PixInsight and Photoshop for processing digital images. There are many useful tools for astrophoto processing that are built expressly for Photoshop (e.g., Noel Carboni's Astronomy "actions").

I forwarded your email to John Bozeman. If you don't hear from him soon, let me know and I'll suggest another source. You can find some of John's tutorials online ... (edit) click here for his website. There is a tutorials button there as well as other resources.

The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it's stranger than we CAN imagine. --- JBS Haldane

Come visit me at Comanche Springs Astronomy Campus (we're on Google Maps) in Texas.

www.3rf.org

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Posted by Poppa Chris on Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:30 AM

I'm giving Pixinsight a test drive. Downloaded the 45day trial last night. Looks pretty impressive. A little hard to get used to after so much Photoshop time under my belt, but seems to be very powerful at dealing with things like gradients, etc. My test subject is a M65/M66 set of images I took back in April. So far so good. Taking it one step at a time in the workflow while following a set of video tutorials. Hopefully, I'll get the chance to finish up tonight.

The "before" shot

M65-M66

---Poppa Chris---

Denham Springs, Louisiana USA

"Second star to the right - Then straight on until morning!" - Peter Pan

Celestron CPC1100GPS (XLT) - 279mm aperature, 2800mm Focal length. (f10) Celestron Ultima LX (70deg AFOV) Eyepieces 32mm thru 5mm, Canon EOS Rebel T2i DSLR, Backyard EOS imaging software, Orion Star Shoot Planetary Imager IV, Celestron Skymaster 15x70 binoculars

 

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Posted by Poppa Chris on Monday, October 21, 2013 6:22 AM

So far, so good on the Pixinsight learning curve.  The ability to work in a "clone" of your image before applying the tool to your main image is REALLY helpful.  The Dynamic Background Extraction Tool completely removed gradients such as vignetting without a trace.  Coupled with the Background Neutralization Tool you are left with a completely flat background.  To me, this is worth the price of Pixinsight all by itself.  Another great tool is the Screen Transfer Tool.  It lets you see your stretched image without effecting the real image at all.  Really, really helpful.  My next steps are to explore the histogram stretching and star mask functions.  Then on to color saturation and HDR calibrations.  I must say that I am thoroughly impressed so far.

Oh!  I did try out the pre-loaded "Preprocessing" Script for calibrating, registering and stacking Lights, Darks, Flats, and Bias frames too.  But without a tutorial to follow I'm not sure about the settings I used.  All I know is that it works but my results were questionable.  My fault I'm sure due to my ignorance.  So I used my previous Deep Sky Stacker resulting TIF file for my processing tests where I had a good set of tutorials to follow.

 

---Poppa Chris---

Denham Springs, Louisiana USA

"Second star to the right - Then straight on until morning!" - Peter Pan

Celestron CPC1100GPS (XLT) - 279mm aperature, 2800mm Focal length. (f10) Celestron Ultima LX (70deg AFOV) Eyepieces 32mm thru 5mm, Canon EOS Rebel T2i DSLR, Backyard EOS imaging software, Orion Star Shoot Planetary Imager IV, Celestron Skymaster 15x70 binoculars

 

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Posted by Poppa Chris on Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:48 PM

Update on progress with learning Pixinsight.  Interesting to say the least.  Like Photoshop there is a learning curve hill to climb.

Anyway, here is an interim progress shot.  Not a finished photo mind you, just the first histogram stretch with only the luminance channel active. No color.  But if you look at it and at the photo I posted above I beleive you will find the gradient issues much improved.  Still a lot of learning and work to do though.

M65-M66 Luminance stretch

---Poppa Chris---

Denham Springs, Louisiana USA

"Second star to the right - Then straight on until morning!" - Peter Pan

Celestron CPC1100GPS (XLT) - 279mm aperature, 2800mm Focal length. (f10) Celestron Ultima LX (70deg AFOV) Eyepieces 32mm thru 5mm, Canon EOS Rebel T2i DSLR, Backyard EOS imaging software, Orion Star Shoot Planetary Imager IV, Celestron Skymaster 15x70 binoculars

 

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Posted by Poppa Chris on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:54 PM

Well.  This is the result of my first run with PixInsight.  I think it will be worth purchasing and using in the future.  In fact there were a lot of features that I liked much better than Photoshop CS6.  And I'm sure my results will get better with practice.

---Poppa Chris---

Denham Springs, Louisiana USA

"Second star to the right - Then straight on until morning!" - Peter Pan

Celestron CPC1100GPS (XLT) - 279mm aperature, 2800mm Focal length. (f10) Celestron Ultima LX (70deg AFOV) Eyepieces 32mm thru 5mm, Canon EOS Rebel T2i DSLR, Backyard EOS imaging software, Orion Star Shoot Planetary Imager IV, Celestron Skymaster 15x70 binoculars

 

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Posted by Poppa Chris on Friday, November 01, 2013 4:39 PM

After playing with the trial version for 2-1/2 weeks I decided to take the plunge and bought the commercial license for Pixinsight processing software. From my preliminary results so far, I believe I just may relegate Photoshop CS6 to family vacation pictures...

---Poppa Chris---

Denham Springs, Louisiana USA

"Second star to the right - Then straight on until morning!" - Peter Pan

Celestron CPC1100GPS (XLT) - 279mm aperature, 2800mm Focal length. (f10) Celestron Ultima LX (70deg AFOV) Eyepieces 32mm thru 5mm, Canon EOS Rebel T2i DSLR, Backyard EOS imaging software, Orion Star Shoot Planetary Imager IV, Celestron Skymaster 15x70 binoculars

 

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Posted by Pepe Cuellar on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 4:51 PM

I use PixInsight with my DSLR images and it´s the best program for processing astrophotos. Here you can see some images processed with PI: http://astrosurfer.jimdo.com/cielo-profundo/ Regards! Pepe Cuellar.

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Posted by Poppa Chris on Thursday, December 05, 2013 10:48 AM

Pepe Cuellar

I use PixInsight with my DSLR images and it´s the best program for processing astrophotos. Here you can see some images processed with PI: http://astrosurfer.jimdo.com/cielo-profundo/ Regards! Pepe Cuellar.

 

Nice work, Pepe.

I'm thoroughly impressed with Pixinsight and will be doing all of my AP processing with it from now on.

Now if I can only get some quality scope time to start getting some decent data to work on...

---Poppa Chris---

Denham Springs, Louisiana USA

"Second star to the right - Then straight on until morning!" - Peter Pan

Celestron CPC1100GPS (XLT) - 279mm aperature, 2800mm Focal length. (f10) Celestron Ultima LX (70deg AFOV) Eyepieces 32mm thru 5mm, Canon EOS Rebel T2i DSLR, Backyard EOS imaging software, Orion Star Shoot Planetary Imager IV, Celestron Skymaster 15x70 binoculars

 

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Posted by Pepe Cuellar on Thursday, December 05, 2013 10:52 AM
Thanks!
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Posted by Poppa Chris on Monday, December 30, 2013 6:59 PM

Poppa Chris

Well.  This is the result of my first run with PixInsight.  I think it will be worth purchasing and using in the future.  In fact there were a lot of features that I liked much better than Photoshop CS6.  And I'm sure my results will get better with practice.

 

 

Here is a crop out of M65 only from the above M65/M66 image:

M65 only

Still learning a few things about Pixinsight.

---Poppa Chris---

Denham Springs, Louisiana USA

"Second star to the right - Then straight on until morning!" - Peter Pan

Celestron CPC1100GPS (XLT) - 279mm aperature, 2800mm Focal length. (f10) Celestron Ultima LX (70deg AFOV) Eyepieces 32mm thru 5mm, Canon EOS Rebel T2i DSLR, Backyard EOS imaging software, Orion Star Shoot Planetary Imager IV, Celestron Skymaster 15x70 binoculars

 

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Posted by Poppa Chris on Tuesday, December 31, 2013 8:11 AM

I think the worst feature of this image is that I cropped it too closely, which produced an artificial magnification that gave me a lot of graininess that I haven't figured out how to deal with (other than NOT to crop so closely in the future)

---Poppa Chris---

Denham Springs, Louisiana USA

"Second star to the right - Then straight on until morning!" - Peter Pan

Celestron CPC1100GPS (XLT) - 279mm aperature, 2800mm Focal length. (f10) Celestron Ultima LX (70deg AFOV) Eyepieces 32mm thru 5mm, Canon EOS Rebel T2i DSLR, Backyard EOS imaging software, Orion Star Shoot Planetary Imager IV, Celestron Skymaster 15x70 binoculars

 

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